[PapaNew]

We're not getting anywhere ansel. You seem to take great pleasure in ill-founded accusation. You're running a circular argument and really are not making much sense. I've stated where you're wrong about what I'm saying and the words I am using. The word "libertarian" does not mean what you say or imply. It's not a party and it doesn't mean advocating destructive or perverse behavior.

I think I'll get off the circular argument merry-go-round with you.

[ansel12]

What is going on is that you are ignoring your own position, which is typical of libertarians.

You promote the politics of abortion and the homosexual agenda, conservatives do not, nor would Jesus. Even Ted Kennedy or Obama or (libertarian) Bill Maher can say ‘I am personally opposed, but’.

By the way, the lib party IS libertarianism, it is where the fantasy has to deal with actual politics, rather than playing word games.