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STICK TO YOUR GUNS
28 Dec 12 | Justin Giles

Posted on 12/28/2012 11:53:32 AM PST by SENTINEL

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To: Gritty
"If 67 wasn't too old for our ancestors, it isn't too old for many of us, either."

Gritty I'm sure you and millions of others are real scrappers way past 50....Especially the ladies. ;) I used that number for two reasons, one that's what I could gather about the age of the colonial fighters, and two....people like ArrogantBustard would question me on it.

121 posted on 01/02/2013 2:52:43 PM PST by SENTINEL (I lie, I cheat, I steal, I communize, I sacrifice unborn babies, I'm Harry Reid and I'm a mormon)
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To: SENTINEL
What do you want Arrogant ?

From you?

1) For you to quit blowing smoke up my ass.

2) For you to respond to comment and criticism without blowing your top.

I think both of those requests are fairly reasonable. I don't expect either of them to be fulfilled ... indeed, I expect further vituperation and personal insults.

Go ahead.

Prove me wrong.

122 posted on 01/02/2013 2:53:03 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: SENTINEL; Gritty
people like ArrogantBustard would question me on it.

You're damn right I will. I don't like bullcrap statistics. I really don't like people trying to persuade me to do something using bullcrap statistics.

123 posted on 01/02/2013 2:57:20 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Doubts good, but yer’ bordering on stupid now.


124 posted on 01/02/2013 2:57:43 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Sine ullo desiderio vive et ama.... Carpe diem.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
"telling them to shut up, or ascribing base motives to them."

I told you I'm trying to rally the troops in the middle of a psychological warfare attack, with the facts and history I could gather, along with my opinion based on my personal military experience.

You're openly undermining that honest effort, I don't need to ascribe motives.

I have an idea, you're so educated and experienced after all, why don't you go write your own article ?!

125 posted on 01/02/2013 3:06:02 PM PST by SENTINEL (I lie, I cheat, I steal, I communize, I sacrifice unborn babies, I'm Harry Reid and I'm a mormon)
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To: Dead Corpse
yer’ bordering on stupid now.

I don't agree. Obviously.

126 posted on 01/02/2013 3:07:55 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
"You're damn right I will. I don't like bullcrap statistics. I really don't like people trying to persuade me to do something using bullcrap statistics."

I'm not trying to persuade you to do anything. I didn't even invite you to do anything...Other than correct my numbers which you still haven't done. In fact if you showed up uninvited we might have a serious disagreement.

127 posted on 01/02/2013 3:11:51 PM PST by SENTINEL (I lie, I cheat, I steal, I communize, I sacrifice unborn babies, I'm Harry Reid and I'm a mormon)
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To: SENTINEL

bfl


128 posted on 01/02/2013 3:12:01 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: SENTINEL
why don't you go write your own article ?!

The article about democide has been done to death by many better men than I ... I shall not bother.

The bit about how many of "us" are there, vs how many of "them", and how to assess the quality of "us" and "them", and how to assess the impact of "their" propaganda machine ...

That is more than a bit intriguing. It certainly has NOT been done properly, to my knowledge. Your essay is a prime example of doing it badly, IMO, making far too many highly optimistic assumptions in support of a pre-determined conclusion.

I may well have a go at that ... I expect that you'll throw bricks at it when I do.

No worries ... I'm used to it.

Unlike some folks, I have learned not to take it personally.

129 posted on 01/02/2013 3:15:37 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: SENTINEL
I'm not trying to persuade you to do anything.

You posted a persuasive essay to a discussion forum of which I am long-standing member.

Your essay addresses a topic of long-established interest to me.

That you are trying to persuade me to do something (in this case, adopt a certain attitude and set of beliefs) is a reasonable inference.

I shall not insult your intelligence by suggesting that your article is merely the result of a billion monkeys typing for a billion years. It is clearly not. It is clearly created by an intelligence, and done so for a purpose.

130 posted on 01/02/2013 3:20:47 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: SENTINEL

Off the top of my head, I would leave the FBI out of the #’s right off the back for reasons listed on pages 34-49 in this declassified report from them about the lefties & islamic alliance from 1970:

http://www.governmentattic.org/2docs/FBI_Monograph_Fedayeen-Impact_1970.pdf

Also, their conviction in the Holy Land Foundation trial that exposes all the moslem groups in the USA as being front groups for the moslem brotherhood, which is the tie that binds this regime together. They KNOW what’s going on & they’ve been watching since the 70’s. I wouldn’t alienate them so quickly even though I scratch my head at them sometimes...well, a lot of times.


131 posted on 01/02/2013 3:23:17 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
"1) For you to quit blowing smoke up my ass.

2) For you to respond to comment and criticism without blowing your top."

You're a smart guy Arrogant, I'll give you that.

However I will not give you the names or numbers of active duty military I have spoken while researching this topic. In addition to having personal experience I have spoken with a lot of current members.

There is another article I have in the works based on an expertise I have that will further help the fearful. In the next week or two:

STYG II: What Every Patriot Should Know About Infrared

132 posted on 01/02/2013 3:25:27 PM PST by SENTINEL (I lie, I cheat, I steal, I communize, I sacrifice unborn babies, I'm Harry Reid and I'm a mormon)
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To: bayouranger
"Off the top of my head, I would leave the FBI out of the #’s right off the back for reasons listed on pages 34-49 in this declassified report from them about the lefties & islamic alliance from 1970"

The FBI issue you bring is something I thought about as well. On the one hand they are a favorite target of the marxists, on the other hand it was HRT that did the worst of it at Ruby Ridge, and the mop-up massacre at Waco.

I can't imagine how ahrd it must be to be a good moral FBI agent these days. "We" certainly are among "them" in the FBI. Thanks for the input.

133 posted on 01/02/2013 3:30:22 PM PST by SENTINEL (I lie, I cheat, I steal, I communize, I sacrifice unborn babies, I'm Harry Reid and I'm a mormon)
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To: ArrogantBustard
I don't throw brick at allies.

I am a Marine. I am trained to kill bad guys, and step up to lead when there is a need.

Please include your background in any article so we have some perspective.

134 posted on 01/02/2013 3:34:43 PM PST by SENTINEL (I lie, I cheat, I steal, I communize, I sacrifice unborn babies, I'm Harry Reid and I'm a mormon)
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To: SENTINEL
Two terrible events that are still very visible whenever anyone thinks about gun control & the FBI. OTOH, what transpired in Libya has galvanized us & what they think of us. That will be their undoing should they over-reach using any component in the DOD. "Bumps in the road" said it all. Then he "walks like a duck" to Vegas. Prior to that, Penneta disarming our Marines...
135 posted on 01/02/2013 4:07:48 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: combat_boots

Maybe 0bama will bring over all those Africans now being trained in counterterrorism by our guys. Or the Benghazi AQ. Or the Taliban.

*********

Welcome to America, Kony. You savage murdering heathen.


136 posted on 01/02/2013 4:16:20 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: DTogo
you never know which straw will break the camels back...
137 posted on 01/02/2013 4:20:01 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: ArrogantBustard; SENTINEL

I expect that you’ll throw bricks at it when I do.

*************

I wouldn’t blame him one bit. You have hijacked this thread.


138 posted on 01/02/2013 4:53:10 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: SENTINEL
Pravda.ru: Americans, never give up your guns! Royal martyrs: Tsar Nicholas II and family These days, there are few, few things to admire about the socialist, bankrupt and culturally degenerating USA, but at least so far, one thing remains: the right to bear arms and use deadly force to defend one’s self and possessions. This will probably come as a total shock to most of my Western readers, but at one point, Russia was one of the most heavily armed societies on earth. This was, of course, when we were free under the Tsar. Weapons, from swords and spears to pistols, rifles and shotguns were everywhere, common items. People carried them concealed, they carried them holstered. Fighting knives were a prominent part of many traditional attires and those little tubes criss-crossing on the costumes of Cossacks and various Caucasian peoples? Well those are bullet holders for rifles. Various armies, such as the Poles, during the Смута (Times of Troubles), or Napoleon, or the Germans even as the Tsarist state collapsed under the weight of WW1 and Wall Street monies, found that holding Russian lands was much much harder than taking them and taking was no easy walk in the park but a blood bath all its own. In holding, one faced an extremely well armed and aggressive population Hell bent on exterminating or driving out the aggressor. This well armed population was what allowed the various White factions to rise up, no matter how disorganized politically and militarily they were in 1918 and wage a savage civil war against the Reds. It should be noted that many of these armies were armed peasants, villagers, farmers and merchants, protecting their own. If it had not been for Washington’s clandestine support of and for the Reds, history would have gone quite differently." More here: http://1389blog.com/2012/12/31/pravda-ru-americans-never-give-up-your-guns/ Bottom line: The Russians are warning us.
139 posted on 01/02/2013 5:52:58 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: SENTINEL

Thanks for the new tagline!


140 posted on 01/02/2013 7:34:20 PM PST by matthew fuller (We are 9350000 men with battle rifles, not armed because we are free, but free because we are armed.)
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