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I think we are all talking about different things. I watched the TV SHOW Hanity. Many here must be talking about the Internet video. At the first of the show,( watch if you have DVR) she was shooting a target. A red circle with a black center. She used the 9mm and the .45. She was all over the paper at 30 ft. I'm not sure a pie pan would cover the holes.

Later, to show the weapons, she just shot a piece of tin with no aim point to show the size of the holes. I even took into consideration that she may have shot patterns to show the size of the holes, on the tin. The first target shooting, however was pretty poor.

As for me, I reload my own, have shot all my life since I was about 9, and was expert in the Army. I won NRA tournaments from about 9-12 years old with a match .22. I have made a few shots I'm proud of such as shooting a hog on full run shooting freehand standing in a field at about 120 yards. Right through the heart. I've made a couple of 500 yd shots from a stand with a rest. The one most remember about me was when I went to a friends house to shoot with my open sighted M1A. He had a Rem bull bbl. .308 with a 12x scope. He got it sighted at 300 yds and was able to hit a metal target every shot after about 7-8 shots. I threw my M1A up with my sling and shot the target and you could hear the ring. He said I bet you can't do that again, so I shot again and,...ring. They were all aghast, so I did it 3 times in a row all with open sights. He was laying down with a tripod, I was standing.

I don't pretend to be some sort of competitive shooter, but I'm no slouch either. My statement was about shooting a paper target 30 ft away. I could put 3 shots in a 2 inch circle for sure and she didn't. Yes, I have both a .45 and a 9mm, and reload for all my weapons. If you watch the TV show, you will see what I mean.