[virgil283]

"Remarkably, New York City officers have been found to engage in patterns of deceit in cases involving charges as minor as trespass. In September it was reported that the Bronx district attorney’s office was so alarmed by police lying that it decided to stop prosecuting people who were stopped and arrested for trespassing at public housing projects, unless prosecutors first interviewed the arresting officer to ensure the arrest was actually warranted. Jeannette Rucker, the chief of arraignments for the Bronx district attorney, explained in a letter that it had become apparent that the police were arresting people even when there was convincing evidence that they were innocent. To justify the arrests, Ms. Rucker claimed, police officers provided false written statements, and in depositions, the arresting officers gave false testimony. "..[from the link]

[RIghtwardHo]

Speaking as a former Prosecutor, while the overwhelming number of Officers are good decent people trying to do their job the best they can, the Public would be floored at how often they lie. It is certainly more than a rare event.

[Nifster]

I object to drawing broad conclusions from individual examples. Because the police in the Bronx or NYC think that ‘making numbers’ is their job does NOT mean that every PD or even every officer thinks or behaves that way.

I find it interesting that this an ever increasing effort to make our police officers out as the bad guy and never to be trusted no matter what. Across this nation there are many local PDs and Sheriffs offices that do a very tough job and do it well.

I am tired of the singularities thrown about as proof

[muir_redwoods]

The police are the hands of the government. Those conservatives here who (rightly, in my view) lack trust in the government should reflect on what that means regarding the police.

[Chode]

why??? because they can, with virtual impunity...

[PapaBear3625]

To justify the arrests, Ms. Rucker claimed, police officers provided false written statements, and in depositions, the arresting officers gave false testimony.

The real culprit here is the prosecutor. If cop perjury led to prosecution, conviction, and heavy prison time for the perjuring cop, then false testimony from cops would cease.

Police, like most people, respond rationally to the incentives in front of them. If they are rewarded for arrests, and not penalized for lying in order to get those arrests, then many will lie.

[BfloGuy]

In the private sector, employees are judged by results: profit increased, costs were cut, etc..

But in the public sector, employees are typically evaluated by the number of tasks completed: welfare cases processed, new food stamp reciepients signed up, or number of tickets issued.

Results [society's problems reduced] don't figure in. Just look busy.

[45semi]

Last time I got a speeding ticket, I went to court to fight it.
I was amazed at the parquet oak floors, marble steps, and number of leather chairs...
Oak wainscoating, oak chair-rail on the wall, very high quality paneling, terazzo flooring in the entrance, number of skylights,
high-end bathroom fixtures, obviously NOT commercial-grade carpeting where there wasnt oak flooring,etc...
They do themselves very well at taxpayer expense.
If everyone obeyed all the laws, all the time, the laws would be changed.
How else would 'civil servants' work in what looks like a wall street bankers office complex?

[hosepipe]

The thin blue line lives on donuts..
and really is not that thin anymore...

[hosepipe]

The justice system is as honest as the lawyers that run it...

Needless to say that about says it all...

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Q; Why Do lawyers wear neckties?...

A; To keep down the foreskin... Yeah even the “butch” ones..

[QT3.14]

Police quotas remind me of a scene out of '70's-80's cop movie.

The violator is ragging on the cop writing him a ticket accusing him of
doing it because of a quota system.

Officer replies along the lines of, 'They did away with the quota system.
We can write all the tickets we want to now.'