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1 posted on 02/09/2013 10:39:02 AM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

The current voting system in this country makes elections in the lowest banana republics look honest. It’s a disgrace what is going on in this country. Even the “UN” observers were embarrassed by what occurred during the “election” of 2012. This country is a joke.


2 posted on 02/09/2013 10:50:09 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Now Playing. Obama II - The Revenge of My Father.)
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Does everyone realize that the RNC is under a 30-yr old court order NOT to fight voter fraud cases:

Democratic National Committee v Republican National Committee

Case No. 09-4615 (C.A. 3, Mar. 8, 2012)

In 1982, the Republican National Committee (“RNC”) and the Democratic National Committee (“DNC”) entered into a consent decree (the “Decree” or “Consent Decree”), which is national in scope, limiting the RNC’s ability to engage or assist in voter fraud prevention unless the RNC obtains the court’s approval in advance. The RNC appeals from a judgment of the United States District Court for the District of New Jersey denying, in part, the RNC’s Motion to Vacate or Modify the Consent Decree. Although the District Court declined to vacate the Decree, it did make modifications to the Decree. The RNC argues that the District Court abused its discretion by modifying the Decree as it did and by declining to vacate the Decree. For the following reasons, we will affirm the District Court’s judgment.

I. BACKGROUND

A. 1981 Lawsuit and Consent Decree

During the 1981 New Jersey gubernatorial election, the DNC, the New Jersey Democratic State Committee (“DSC”), Virginia L. Peggins, and Lynette Monroe brought an action against the RNC, the New Jersey Republican State Committee (“RSC”), John A. Kelly, Ronald Kaufman, and Alex Hurtado, alleging that the RNC and RSC targeted minority voters in an effort to intimidate them in violation of the Voting Rights Act of 1965 (“VRA”), 42 U.S.C. §§ 1971, 1973, and the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States. The RNC allegedly created a voter challenge list by mailing sample ballots to individuals in precincts with a high percentage of racial or ethnic minority registered voters and, then, including individuals whose postcards were returned as undeliverable on a list of voters to challenge at the polls. The RNC also allegedly enlisted the help of off-duty sheriffs and police officers to intimidate voters by standing at polling places in minority precincts during voting with “National Ballot Security Task Force” armbands. Some of the officers allegedly wore firearms in a visible manner.

To settle the lawsuit, the RNC and RSC entered into the Consent Decree at issue here. The RNC and RSC agreed that they would:

[I]n the future, in all states and territories of the United States:

(a) comply with all applicable state and federal laws protecting the rights of duly qualified citizens to vote for the candidate(s) of their choice;

(b) in the event that they produce or place any signs which are part of ballot security activities, cause said signs to disclose that they are authorized or sponsored by the party committees and any other committees participating with the party committees;

(c) refrain from giving any directions to or permitting their agents or employees to remove or deface any lawfully printed and placed campaign materials or signs;

(d) refrain from giving any directions to or permitting their employees to campaign within restricted polling areas or to interrogate prospective voters as to their qualifications to vote prior to their entry to a polling place;

(e) refrain from undertaking any ballot security activities in polling places or election districts where the racial or ethnic composition of such districts is a factor in the decision to conduct, or the actual conduct of, such activities there and where a purpose or significant effect of such activities is to deter qualified voters from voting; and the conduct of such activities disproportionately in or directed toward districts that have a substantial proportion of racial or ethnic populations shall be considered relevant evidence of the existence of such a factor and purpose;

(f) refrain from having private personnel deputized as law enforcement personnel in connection with ballot security activities.


3 posted on 02/09/2013 10:55:52 AM PST by Sioux-san
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"They believe that if they can get, for example, everyone registered to vote who is currently getting government benefits like welfare . . . then that will somehow get them more votes at the polls and make it easier to win elections."

There's no "somehow" about it.

If you get someone hooked on hand-outs, and then give them to power to vote themselves continued hand-outs, they'll vote for continued hand-outs.

It's pretty evil, actually; creating, enslaving, and exploiting a permanent underclass. You ensure that they never advance financially, and that you remain in the elite power circles that you crave.

4 posted on 02/09/2013 11:10:14 AM PST by Washi (PUSH BACK! Encourage your legislators to introduce pro-second amendment legislation.)
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"So we found another way to use tax dollars to win elections, besides giving money away to
people who vote for us? HILARIOUS!"


5 posted on 02/09/2013 11:11:42 AM PST by Bryan
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To: Steelfish

It is ludicrous that when a photo ID is required for nearly every transaction from registering in a hotel, boarding an airplane, cashing a check, buying liquor and even getting welfare benefits that one is not required to vote.


7 posted on 02/09/2013 11:22:16 AM PST by The Great RJ
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I truly believe that some time in the not so distant future the Democrats will propose a bill that would allow you to sign over your voting rights to an outside group, so union members for example would be allowed to let the union cast their votes for them “in their best interest.”


8 posted on 02/09/2013 11:27:31 AM PST by Husker24
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To: Steelfish

Positive is not the main problem now. It was in 2004 and maybe even 2008 but now the main problem is voting machine, epecially the touch screen models. There is NO security in them and no record after the counters have declared the count/ That’s it. There is no record at all. Those things were obviously preset in many jurisdictions and that probably didn’t even matter as the count was done remotely.


9 posted on 02/09/2013 11:36:46 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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I think the problem is COMPLETELY being missed here. The problem is with electronic voting machines. Quite frankly, flat out fraud is quite difficult to pull off in large numbers. Having voting machines? Piece of cake. This is misdirection. Not saying we don’t need to do something about voting fraud, but it is peanuts compared to what can (and maybe) be done with a few wel placed hacks.


11 posted on 02/09/2013 11:51:48 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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The Republicans dominate governorships and legislatures at the state level. They better make ballot box integrity their first priority. I know the corrupt scumbag Holder and his corrupt-to-the-core justice department will do everything in their power to make vote fraud as easy and undetectable as possible, but the Republicans need to gird their loins and do battle like their lives depend on it. The future of the nation certainly does, if America isn’t already dead and gone (arguable).


13 posted on 02/09/2013 12:00:02 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/region_central_cincinnati/downtown/Poll-worker-accused-of-voter-fraud-in-Hamilton-County-speaks-out#ixzz2KLxMy8oY


15 posted on 02/09/2013 1:03:58 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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