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Is It Fair For People On Food Stamps To Buy Prime Rib While Working Families Barely Survive?
TEC ^ | 02/16/2013 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 02/16/2013 6:14:56 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

I saw and EBT user buying 4lbs of $8.99/lb shrimp at the grocery tonight. Peeves the hell out me.


51 posted on 02/16/2013 7:35:03 PM PST by Rebelbase ( .223, .224, whatever it takes....)
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To: Marcella

If it were up to me, we would have ONE assistance program, a monthly cash dole. NO section 8, no food stamps, no free cell phones, no disability and not even unemployment insurance (same program). It would be the same minimal amount nationally with states free to add on if they wish.

Let them figure out how to manage their money during that month, I think they’ll figure things out within a few.


52 posted on 02/16/2013 7:38:00 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SeekAndFind; rlmorel; GeronL; F15Eagle; RightWingConspirator
“Gibs-Me-Dat” (n.) Annuities, in the form of goods, services, or material (usually welfare checks) given predominately to blacks, in exchange for their tacit agreement to reciprocate by not burning down America’s cities.

Example:

“Yo Tyrone, who you be votin foe in 2012?”

“I gots to go wit Obama baby. The democrats be givin out moe betta gibsmedat.”

53 posted on 02/16/2013 7:39:33 PM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: rlmorel
Not too long ago, a young lady and man checked out in front of me. She was dressed in Miss Me jeans, had a designer handbag and a fresh french mani/pedi. She had her groceries separated...that was my first "clue". She bought several nice steaks, two turkeys and a large ham with her EBT/LoneStar card.

I almost asked her if she could run half of my groceries - that I'd brought coupons for most -- on her LoneStar card, since I was paying for hers!

54 posted on 02/16/2013 7:42:44 PM PST by Jane Long
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To: Ellendra

I thought I made this clear. No cooking facilities means one cannot cook in any way shape or form in the room. She cannot bring any food to her room. No hotplate, no appliances of any kind whatsoever.


55 posted on 02/16/2013 7:43:05 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: SeekAndFind

About EBT cards- a lot of the reason why so many people are on it is the obvious (no jobs, and that’s a FACT)

but that it is no longer a shame to use one. The more mainstream the EBT card becomes, the more you see using them. There USED to be a stigma attached to the old “food stamp” usage. Not anymore! It’s almost de rigeur in some places to have one, in fact I think there is some EBT card envy going on.

I could legally get the EBT card. I am actually poor enough. I won’t get one, and there is a very invasive process one must go through to GET one. For one, the whole biometrics thing creeps me out. They also ask for very personal information concerning all you know, may live with (bad for those with room mates) for those of you considering getting an EBT card, please let us know if you are able to get one without taking the biometric IRIS scan. I know the SNAP program tricks people into giving up information they need not give up, for instance:

social security numbers/names of people you may live with (NOT required, but ASKED for as if it is a requirement, thus tricking people into giving up that info)

give as LEAST information as possible, and see if you are able to get an EBT card and not take the “photo” which is not a photo, but an IRIS scan.


56 posted on 02/16/2013 7:44:43 PM PST by radiogirl
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To: Old Sarge

(((copy and pasted, all caps are not my doing)))

A WOMAN WALKS INTO THE DOWNTOWN WELFARE OFFICE, TRAILED BY 15 KIDS. *

*’WOW,’ THE SOCIAL WORKER EXCLAIMS, ‘ARE THEY ALL YOURS?” *

*’YEP, THEY ARE ALL MINE,’ THE FLUSTERED MOMMA SIGHS, HAVING HEARD
THAT QUESTION
A THOUSAND TIMES BEFORE. SHE SAYS, ‘SIT DOWN TERRY.’ ALL THE CHILDREN RUSH
TO FIND SEATS. *

*’WELL,’ SAYS THE SOCIAL WORKER, ‘THEN YOU MUST BE HERE TO SIGN UP. I’LL
NEED ALL YOUR CHILDREN’S NAMES.’ *

*’’WELL, TO KEEP IT SIMPLE, THE BOYS ARE ALL NAMED TERRY AND THE GIRLS ARE
ALL NAMED TERRI.” *

*IN DISBELIEF, THE CASE WORKER SAYS, ‘ARE YOU SERIOUS? THEY’RE ALL
NAMED TERRY?’ *

*THEIR MOMMA REPLIED, ‘WELL, YES - IT MAKES IT EASIER. WHEN IT’S TIME TO GET
THEM OUT OF BED AND READY FOR SCHOOL, I YELL, TERRY!’ AN’ WHEN IT’S TIME
FOR DINNER, I JUST YELL ‘TERRY!’ AND THEY ALL COME A RUNNING. AND IF I
NEED TO STOP THE KID WHO’S RUNNING INTO THE STREET, I JUST YELL ‘TERRY’ AND
ALL OF THEM STOP. IT’S THE SMARTEST IDEA I EVER HAD, NAMING THEM ALL
TERRY.’ *

*THE SOCIAL WORKER THINKS THIS OVER FOR A BIT, THEN WRINKLES HER FOREHEAD
AND SAYS TENTATIVELY, ‘BUT WHAT IF YOU JUST WANT ONE KID TO COME, AND NOT
THE WHOLE BUNCH?’ *

*’THEN I CALL THEM BY THEIR LAST NAMES.’*


57 posted on 02/16/2013 7:45:30 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Old Sarge

gibsmedat is about right


58 posted on 02/16/2013 7:47:23 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

One real factor in the multiplicity of programs is the number of bureaucrats and administrators that run them. It’s not just the recipients of the aid that benefit from all this.
Just like the post office, any “streamlining” will be opposed by a large squadron of govt employees.


59 posted on 02/16/2013 7:48:13 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: kabumpo

What is the rent on that room? Is it section 8?


60 posted on 02/16/2013 7:48:25 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: ogen hal

Because the PURPOSE of food stamps is to get politicians donations.

It wouldn’t be fair to take away Nabisco, Frito-Lay, Pepsico, etc., etc.,’s main reason for donating...
And media makes money off every food stamp item that’s advertised. If it wasn’t for junk and luxury foods media would hardly make anything off food stamps.
So keep those donations and that good press coming to our magnificent politicians who care so much!


61 posted on 02/16/2013 7:49:25 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: nascarnation

I have checked and they have different amount of benefits for every zip code. Someone (or dozens, maybe) has a full time job calculating benefits for every zip code?

Half the budget of these programs stays in the bureaucracy I bet. We could cut the bureaucracy and save many billions without even touching benefits I would wager.


62 posted on 02/16/2013 7:51:06 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: FoxPro

Did you intend to evoke sympathy or advice as to how to stop being a low cost free loader?


63 posted on 02/16/2013 7:51:20 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: Jane Long

You, like most reasonable people would have no objection (or, less objection) to allowing tax dollars to be disbursed to help people in real need.

Need doesn’t mean steak, lobster, cable television or cigarettes.


64 posted on 02/16/2013 7:55:57 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Who said life is fair?

Is it right? No

Fair is a liberal word.


65 posted on 02/16/2013 7:56:23 PM PST by ThomasThomas (Normal isn't normal anymore.)
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To: GeronL

I visited Wash DC and NoVa last April.

It’s the only part of America that looks like most of America USED to look.

50% of the commercial and office buildings DON’T have for lease and available signs on them.

DC is teeming with guys in 1000 dollar suits and women in 400 dollar shoes.


66 posted on 02/16/2013 7:58:14 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: RightWingConspirator
The EBT card has one or both of food and cash sides (like having two different accounts on it). The food side is called SNAP and the cash side is called TANF. I will assure you that Wal-Mart did NOT return cash from the food side. The store manager really doesn't want to lose his job and the chain really doesn't want to lose the ability to accept benefits from the government. The terminal management software wouldn't let this happen and auditing systems would quickly pick it up if it somehow did. The sum of the food products must equal the charge.

On the other hand, why wouldn't the person be able to get cash from the cash side?

67 posted on 02/16/2013 7:58:43 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: nascarnation

and produce NOTHING


68 posted on 02/16/2013 8:00:53 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

I couldn’t get food stamps as a Hurricane Katrina survivor after I relocated to Texas. They as much as told me that middle class white men pay for food stamps, they don’t receive them.


69 posted on 02/16/2013 8:02:22 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I would do this via FReep mail but my “smarty” won’t let me.

Beautiful doggies on your home page !

kg/nancy


70 posted on 02/16/2013 8:03:39 PM PST by krunkygirl (force multiplier in effect...)
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To: steve86

true.


71 posted on 02/16/2013 8:03:58 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: JOE6PAK

Whoops-—that would be my “smarty” phone (which, no question, is smarter than I...)


72 posted on 02/16/2013 8:07:36 PM PST by krunkygirl (force multiplier in effect...)
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To: sten

When I worked at a Midwestern unemployment office (1988-2000) we regularly shipped homeless people to Florida and other states through county vouchers. It wasn’t a new program when I worked on it.


73 posted on 02/16/2013 8:16:11 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

i’m trying to understand why florida allows the liberal states to dump their problems on our streets


74 posted on 02/16/2013 8:19:05 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten

We didn’t send them on goverment buses, they travelled on Greyhound and Trailways. How would Florida know? And Florida did the same thing.


75 posted on 02/16/2013 8:25:19 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Remember, food stamps is based on income. Stay out of debt, get paid in bursts, and some years you are “poor” despite wealth.


76 posted on 02/16/2013 8:29:32 PM PST by ctdonath2 (3% of the population perpetrates >50% of homicides...but gun control advocates blame metal boxes.)
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To: noinfringers2
Did you intend to evoke sympathy or advice as to how to stop being a low cost free loader?

Both

77 posted on 02/16/2013 8:36:36 PM PST by FoxPro
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s fair as lonf as they die of starvation before their next stamp payment arrives.


78 posted on 02/16/2013 8:38:52 PM PST by dalereed
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To: GeronL
That even made The Doctor and Rose laugh!


79 posted on 02/16/2013 8:39:06 PM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Old Sarge

That’s a good gif


80 posted on 02/16/2013 8:42:30 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Rebelbase

I saw and EBT user buying 4lbs of $8.99/lb shrimp at the grocery tonight. Peeves the hell out me.


Last year I stopped by Wal Mart to pick up some stuff on the way home from work. It was Sunday at just before midnight and I think it was the day the EBT cards reset at midnight.

There was a non english speaking hispanic family there with a woman and man in their 40’s, a girl in her late teens or early 20’s and about three young children.

The two adults and the older girl each had a register of their own completely filled up with groceries, snack food, soft drinks, clothing, toys and arts and crafts supplies and were hanging around waiting.

Just after midnight , the man reaches into his front shirt pocket and pulls out about 6 of our states distinctly shaped EBT cards, sorts through and carefully looks at each one of them. After a moment of careful deliberation, the man then proceeds to select three of the EBT cards out the stack.

He hands one to the woman, one to the younger girl and takes one for himself and all three proceeds to check out their respective piles of goods on each of their registers and loaded the bagged goods into about 5 maxed shopping carts and the whole group heads for the parking lot.

It only took me a minute to check out my gallon of milk and dozen eggs so I followed directly behind them.

They are parked in a parking space just opposite to the parking space I was parked in so I got a very good look at their vehicle.

They were driving an optioned out late 1-2 year old top of the line, optioned out red Chevy Suburban SUV with expensive alloy rims and high end aftermarket off road type tires, an aftermarket performance exhaust system and and a really nice biscuit colored leather interior.

The license plate on the SUV showed that it was from Sonora, Mexico.

In our state, each family regardless of the number of people and the number of programs the are one, are issued only ONE EBT card per family.

These people had at least 6 and actually used 3 of them to purchase what I would estimate to be well over $1000 and perhaps closer to 2,000 dollars worth of items between the three of them.

The problem that we have is that it is really easy to create a false identity through the illegal alien network and then go on welfare multiple times under multiple fake identities.

Our social service workers, as a matter of policy, provide EBT cards to people who are illegal and have forged ID documents.

The problem is there is no way to track how many times these people have signed up under multiple assumed identities.

Our own citizens take advantage of the same ready access to fake IDs to get benefits under multiple fake Ids as well.

It is killing the state of California’s welfare system.


81 posted on 02/16/2013 8:42:30 PM PST by rdcbn
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To: rdcbn

Many illegals have multiple identities and there was a thread yesterday - I think- about how its racist (or something) to ban them from committing identity fraud or something.


82 posted on 02/16/2013 8:45:59 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SeekAndFind
TRANSFORMING AMERICA one day at a time. It certainly seems this is what the majority of voters in America wanted.


“The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.”
Thomas Jefferson quotes (American 3rd US President (1801-09). Author of the Declaration of Independence. 1762-1826)
83 posted on 02/16/2013 8:53:45 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: F15Eagle

The Boston Children’s Museum just recently announced a $2.00 entrance fee for those with EBT (food stamp) cards.

For the “fools” who don’t have these cards it is $14.00.

When I read this last week I was enraged. My kids and their spouses work very hard to support their families and they just got kicked in the face.

.


84 posted on 02/16/2013 8:58:54 PM PST by Mears
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To: Marcella

Very well said. While I know there is abuse in the food stamp program,no one on here knows one thing about the people on assistance - yet,they spew their hatred of those using the card. The comments I read on here are so judgmental that it makes me angry. You should never judge anyone unless you have walked a mile in their shoes. Maybe some of these well-dressed, people driving nice cars lost their jobs due to the wonderful/s obama economy and these vehicles are paid off before the family went on food stamps.

And for people to make a list of what others should and shouldn’t eat makes me think they’d be right at home with nanny bloomburg in NYC. This type of judgmental and superior attitude is right up his alley - after all, he banned salt, transfats, soda over 16 oz, and is now working on getting rid of styrofoam. Seems he knows what’s best for everyone, just as some on here do.


85 posted on 02/16/2013 9:06:10 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: GeronL

“If it were up to me, we would have ONE assistance program..”

Why not MRE’s, C-Rats or K-Rats for people my age. Let them all come to a central point and claim their share.

Try trading THOSE for drugs or alcohol!


86 posted on 02/16/2013 9:16:37 PM PST by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: Rembrandt

lol


87 posted on 02/16/2013 9:17:31 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

to me it has nothing to do with “fair”.

it is just not right.’no way you look at it.


88 posted on 02/16/2013 9:18:38 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

amen.


89 posted on 02/16/2013 9:19:43 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: FoxPro

I just hope for taxpayers sake that you purchase store brand alcohol and tobacco.


90 posted on 02/16/2013 9:23:27 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Now, right from the outset of this article, let me make it abundantly clear that I do not believe that most people are abusing the system. As I have written about over and over, the number of Americans living in poverty is rapidly increasing because there are not enough jobs.

This mealy-mouthed politically correct excuse for stating unpleasant facts made reading the remainder an exercise increasing blood presure and little else.

There are no jobs because a treasonous bastard ran for president, and businesses large and small were not willing to risk what could clearly happen (and in fact has happened) if he was succesful.

Does this author actually believe that 49% of american residents of working age are looking for work? Yes, most ARE abusing the system.

Substantially more than half of those abusing the "welfare" system are doing so fraudulently, or simply because they can do so successfully and it takes a lot less effort.
Politically, it is also a permanent benefit to our elected criminal class.

91 posted on 02/16/2013 9:24:05 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
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To: freekitty

is that a euphemism for “government quota job”?


92 posted on 02/16/2013 9:25:58 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: meyer

those 90% also believe they deserve their scammed benefits.


93 posted on 02/16/2013 9:27:33 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: steve86

Just curious - why is there a cash side? (Why are we giving people cash?)


94 posted on 02/16/2013 9:32:31 PM PST by Gil4 (Progressives - Trying to repeal the Law of Supply and Demand since 1848)
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To: Rembrandt

Why not MRE’s, C-Rats or K-Rats

Too damned expensive. (Almost as much as the lobster.)


95 posted on 02/16/2013 9:35:47 PM PST by Gil4 (Progressives - Trying to repeal the Law of Supply and Demand since 1848)
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To: radiogirl
That was really a creative bunch of BS you laid on us NOOB.
We are tolerant here, but not stupid.

Undocumented or unsubstantiated assertions are not worth rat feces.

Perhaps you should go back to DU and get additional training.

96 posted on 02/16/2013 9:42:29 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
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To: Catsrus
I really don't care what you eat, so long as you're not using and abusing my tax dollars to do it.

You haven't walked a mile in my shoes either, moron.

97 posted on 02/16/2013 9:51:28 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
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To: Catsrus

“Seems he knows what’s best for everyone, just as some on here do.”

No, working people have a right to bitch about what luxuries they are providing for deadbeats. I can’t imagine what you are doing here other than being a troll


98 posted on 02/16/2013 9:59:23 PM PST by Figment
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To: Catsrus
“Very well said.”

Thanks for the support. If some on here had to have food stamps, I don't think they would like it if the card could only be used for rice and beans as some have said. They would be yelling, “Nanny state says I can only have rice and beans and I lost my job and this money is all I have to eat on and I can decide which food is better for my family.” That is exactly what I would think if I had to have that card.

Those cards aren't just going to deadbeats and liberals. So many good people have lost jobs and can't find one. This is a terrible situation and I can't judge people or what they buy. I'd rather pray for those in real trouble.

99 posted on 02/16/2013 10:00:17 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Rembrandt

Makes too much sense


100 posted on 02/16/2013 10:01:12 PM PST by Figment
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