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1 posted on 02/21/2013 4:53:22 PM PST by Starman417
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2 posted on 02/21/2013 4:56:49 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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Her starting point is that in light of the recent findings, we should be able to agree that Mill was quite wrong about the competence of human beings as choosers.

But I don't agree. What then?

Yeah, that's pretty much what I thought.

4 posted on 02/21/2013 5:04:57 PM PST by Billthedrill
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Is she using a justification for slavery from Aristostle? Or from; (you know who)... his last name rhymes with Jitler, I know, really, I did not want to go there but seriously. Do all these progressive live in the land of the lotus eaters?


5 posted on 02/21/2013 5:14:36 PM PST by notted
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“We are too fat, we are too much in debt, and we save too little for the future.”

And how much has the high-carb food pyramid from the FDA contributed to obesity? Or the sugar tariffs that led to the use of high fructose corn syrup?

The government has encouraged debt, and discouraged savings. Some folks have stayed out of debt, and saved, but for most it's kind of hard to do. For most countries, 20% is sufficient savings for a decent retirement. In this rich country the 13% SS takes should be enough, except that it is siphoned off and the retirees end up on a cat food diet. Even if you save another 7%, the government will do their best to take that from you too.

The problem isn't that folks can't or won't do the right things to take care of themselves, it's that it is damned hard to do so when the government is pushing them into going the other way.

Liberals look like idiots, always striving to fix the problem that they caused in the first place. Liberals are evil, in that they damned well know that they caused the problem in the first place. If they didn't know it was their problem in the first place, they would be more honest in examining where the problem came from. But they don't go back to real history, they just blame it on Emmanuel Goldstein and come up with a new program that increases state power.

6 posted on 02/21/2013 5:23:19 PM PST by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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We are too fat, we are too much in debt, and we save too little for the future.

All societal ills caused by government coersion. Social security gives people the false impression they need not save. Inflationary monitary policy and progressive taxation deter savings further. Government intervention in interest rates makes debt cheap and obtainable even to the non-creditworthy. Foodstamps, forcing hosptials to treat people who cannot pay, and a myriad of other measures to strip people of personal responsibility have resulted in many unhealthy modern lifestyles.

Typical fascist playbook. Create policies that encourage poor choices, espescially for stupid people, then blame freedom of choice for the problems that arise.

7 posted on 02/21/2013 5:32:02 PM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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Cass Sunstein is already on "The List," so we need to add Sarah Conly too.

5.56mm

10 posted on 02/21/2013 7:46:30 PM PST by M Kehoe
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