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Brief and Direct: Why are Firemen Always the First To Be Laid Off?
Red State.com ^ | Feb 25, 2013

Posted on 02/26/2013 5:40:18 AM PST by KeyLargo

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To: Mouton

That carrier picture is complete BS, it’s a once in a generation event cause by the convergence of:

USS Enterprise being retired

USS Theodore Roosevelt being brought back into service after midlife refueling

USS Abraham Lincoln, a Pacific Fleet carrier, being in Norfolk to begin midlife refueling.

Of the other two carriers, USS Bush just returned from a deployment while USS Eisenhower was just about to leave for one (she just left the other day).

But perception equals reality, right?


21 posted on 02/26/2013 6:15:13 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: chrisser

I agree, he’s painted himself into a corner with this and people will find that his hyperbole was hype and they’ll question him even more.

For that matter, why is he screaming in horror at his own plan while traveling the country promising money to cities.


22 posted on 02/26/2013 6:15:59 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: heartwood

23 posted on 02/26/2013 6:19:14 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: EricT.

Obama, creator of the sequester crisis, decries crises created for political gain

By Andrew Malcolm

Snip—

“Remember now, these aren’t real cuts in current spending. These are cuts in the future increases of current spending. We’ll still be spending more and more and more each year, as we have since Obama took the throne. In fact, he’s been spending more than $1,000,000,000,000 above what the government takes in every single year.”

“But to hear Obama describe the ugly upcoming scenario you’ll probably have to send your kids to school unfed, maybe even naked. See how awful Republicans are?”

Read More At IBD: http://news.investors.com/politics-andrew-malcolm/022613-645743-obama-warns-of-the-sequester-he-invented.htm#ixzz2M0zX0CMF


24 posted on 02/26/2013 6:24:48 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo
This is the guy that by his own admission dosen’t know how to balance a check book...........
25 posted on 02/26/2013 6:25:41 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: KeyLargo

government/socialism is the problem

get rid of the EPA, government schools etc.

the only functions of government are military and border control, some local police. what else cannot the free mark do, private roads, private hospitals, private schools etc.

to hell with the oppressive 4 trillion $ per year federal government, and the state and local goveermens too. leave us alone

to hell with these democrat/communist tyrants


26 posted on 02/26/2013 6:30:28 AM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: KeyLargo

My husband is the fire inspector for the city in which we reside. At 10 pm last night, city council decided to lay off five firefighters and close one fire station. My husband has been on the department for 13 years, and in the last 18 months has body bagged more people than he has in the previous years total. Thanks to layoffs or downsizing through attrition, the department is a skeleton crew. It is understandable that belts need tightened and that this concept includes safety forces. What simply amazes me is how city council and all of their support staff/services never have to suck in their guts. Typical politicians.


27 posted on 02/26/2013 6:32:43 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun

“What simply amazes me is how city council and all of their support staff/services never have to suck in their guts. Typical politicians.”

I feel for you and your husband who I am sure is a dedicated firefighter.

This is a tactic that local Democrat politicans have used for many years to scare the taxpayers into accepting higher taxes.

The threatened cuts will always be to emergency services first rather than the bloated local government employees who do nothing.


28 posted on 02/26/2013 6:39:04 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: tanknetter

Reality is what one sees or physically feels. Perception is an interpretation or extention. I see five carriers, I perceive them to be in port at the same time, a rare event. Perhaps your explanation of what I see may be correct. Still, it is not B.S., are there or are there not five carriers in port at the same time and is that a rare event or not?


29 posted on 02/26/2013 6:41:15 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: KeyLargo

Wel, they’re not going to scare us if they threaten to lay off bureaucrats, IRS employees, or if they threaten to end lavish travel budgets for government officials.


30 posted on 02/26/2013 6:49:51 AM PST by Fido969
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To: KeyLargo

It’s as if a household discovered that the breadwinner’s wages were going to be cut 2% and deciding “well, I guess we’ll have to guit eating for a year”.


31 posted on 02/26/2013 6:53:06 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Fido969

SPIN METER: In budget fight, sky is falling again
Feb 26, 2013

“the Washington Monument ploy, also known as the Firemen First principle, is at work.

It goes like this: Put someone’s budget at risk and the first thing you’ll hear is a threat to close a cherished national symbol or lay off firefighters and police, when in fact there are other ways to cut spending.

It so happens the Washington Monument is already closed, for earthquake repair. But Obama indulged in the Firemen First principle quite literally.

He appeared at the White House in front of officers in blue uniforms to warn of the consequences of the sequester. “Emergency responders like the ones who are here today - their ability to help communities respond to and recover from disasters will be degraded.”

The law gives little flexibility to agencies to protect favored programs, except for big ones specifically exempted from the automatic cuts, such as Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and veterans benefits.”

http://www.9news.com/news/article/319547/188/SPIN-METER-In-budget-fight-sky-is-falling-again


32 posted on 02/26/2013 7:04:41 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo; All
how many fake crisis have the news media tried to scare the public with? :

sequester, fiscal cliff, bp oil “disaster”, global warming hoax

When are the people going to see the lying news media for what they are chicken little ,crying wolf liars , propagandists, democrat/communist political activists?

33 posted on 02/26/2013 7:07:20 AM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: KeyLargo

Ideas are like your kids,no mater how bad they are you still love them.


34 posted on 02/26/2013 7:11:35 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: circlecity

Bucshon: Obama’s budget scare tactics phony

By Thomas B. Langhorne
Posted February 23, 2013 at 5:07 p.m.

“The federal government is fairly bloated, and I think we can find $85 billion in targeted cuts to replace the sequester over the next few months,” Bucshon said.

http://www.courierpress.com/news/2013/feb/23/36pt-hed1-15-inches-of-story-one-line/


35 posted on 02/26/2013 7:13:49 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo
So I guess we're left with the question are
  1. Airport security and TSA
  2. FEMA
  3. FDA
  4. Homeland Security
  5. Teachers (really the DOE & bureaucracy)
worth the attendant
  1. Local first responders [fire, police, EMS] -- (wait, if they're local why should federal cuts impact them?)
  2. Border Patrol
  3. NASA
  4. Military “readiness” and “preparedness”
?

I would venture to say that the deal is worth it, especially when you consider things like the militarization of the police is fueled by federal monies, and things like "Homeland Security" (e.g. TSA) are nothing but a sustained assault (and population-conditioning) on liberties and constitutionally guaranteed rights.

36 posted on 02/26/2013 7:14:04 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Vaduz

Obama: If Republicans don’t give me what I want I will make planes fall from the sky
By: DrJohn

And soon we’re likely to hear that global warming will accelerate and comets will strike the Earth if Republicans don’t acquiesce to Obama’s demands for more taxes. He has hinted that planes will fall from the sky:

“Air traffic controllers and airport security will see cutbacks, which means more delays at airports across the country,” Obama continued. “Thousands of teachers and educators will be laid off. Tens of thousands of parents will have to scramble to find child care for their kids. Hundreds of thousands of Americans will lose access to primary care and preventive care like flu vaccinations and cancer screenings.”

How much is to be “cut”? $85 billion on a budget of $3.6 trillion. That’s 2.4%. As of August household income was down 8.2% under Obama and the country had to make do. Now Obama tries to tell us that government can’t do with 2.4% less? Seriously?

He has been lying about the sequester since the debates. The sequester was Obama’s team’s idea:

For all the tough talk, Obama is afraid. He is afraid that the sequester will come to pass and no one will notice. He is frightened to death that America will learn that the government can do with 2.4% less, because then America will begin to wonder with just how much less government can do.

http://floppingaces.net/2013/02/23/obama-if-republicans-dont-give-me-what-i-want-i-will-make-planes-fall-from-the-sky/


37 posted on 02/26/2013 7:21:18 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Mouton

Puget Sound Naval Shipyard always has four carriers in port. They are the retired USS Ranger, Independence, Kitty Hawk and Constellation.

It regularly has a 5th, when an active carrier is there for between deployment overhaul.

The old Philadelphia Shipyard has three carriers in port. They are the retired USS Forrestal, Saratoga (I think she’s been moved down from Newport by now) and Kennedy.

Of the carriers in that Norfolk picture, only two are active and operational. One is retired (although still in commission due to a legal caveat about not decommissioning a nuclear ship until it has been defueled) and two are not in active service.

So the reality may be that there are five carriers tied up together, but the reality also is that only two are active. The perception that it is due to sequestration is dead wrong.


38 posted on 02/26/2013 7:28:43 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: OneWingedShark

39 posted on 02/26/2013 7:29:32 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Obama will be his own down fall,the truth is out and he’s afraid his tax scams will fail.
The rat and his pals will have to make more cuts the compulsive spenders greates fear.


40 posted on 02/26/2013 7:32:09 AM PST by Vaduz
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