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“Cruz’s father was also a US citizen at the time of his birth.”

Rafel Cruz escaped from Cuba in the 1950’s and was a legal immigrant/resident of the USA at the time of Ted’s birth. He did not become a U.S. citizen until 2005.

Cruz’ mother was born in Delaware.

Both parents were temporarily living in Calgary (for work purposes) at the time of Cruz’ birth in 1970.

I am not sure if the laws at the time would make Cruz a “natural born citizen” for the purposes of eligibility for Presidency - any legal scholars here?


33 posted on 03/09/2013 8:24:35 AM PST by paterfamilias
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To: paterfamilias

If Obama was legal then Cruz is legal.

One thing is certain, Cruz and his parents held allegiance to America.


37 posted on 03/09/2013 8:28:06 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: paterfamilias

Not a legal scholar, but I was a military brat and had a number of friends born overseas to both American parents. At the time, we all understood they were ineligible for presidency. That is how we were taught the rules on eligibility.

Now, I was born in the U.S. to an American citizen (over 25, with family ties predating the Revolution) and a legal U.S. resident (but not yet citizen), and I had never heard I was ineligible until the last few years. (Funny, because my mother’s country won’t give me citizenship.)


75 posted on 03/09/2013 8:50:03 AM PST by conservative cat
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To: paterfamilias

I have read about Cruz’s father being a Castro supporter and that the family with son Ted lived for for four years in Canada where Ted was born. My take is that birth in Canada sets the ‘natural’ allegiance there unless revoked at age of consent. Whether Ted Cruz has done such I don’t know but in any case he will not be a ‘natural’ born citizen which is tied to country of birth and parentage.


105 posted on 03/09/2013 8:59:40 AM PST by noinfringers2
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To: paterfamilias

The meaning of NBC in the Constitution shouldn’t have been, and wasn’t, subject to legislative reinterpretation.


109 posted on 03/09/2013 9:01:08 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: paterfamilias

Rafael Cruz didn’t ”escape from Cuba” because at the time he left, PRIOR to the Castro takeover, any Cuban could just pick up and leave whenever they wanted to. Cruz has deliberately misrepresented his father’s history in an attempt to tie him into the flight-from-communism diaspora. He was found out and confronted by an Austin newspaper.


252 posted on 03/09/2013 10:08:08 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: paterfamilias
I am not sure if the laws at the time would make Cruz a “natural born citizen” for the purposes of eligibility for Presidency - any legal scholars here?

I have read and studied enough on this point that I think I can qualify to give as authoritative opinion as exists.

That almost everyone born on US soil is a natural born citizen (yes, that includes Obama) is SETTLED LAW. There is a very good reason why the US Supreme Court has steadfastly refused to review any of the Obama cases that have reached them. It's settled. Children born on US soil are natural born citizens. Their parents' citizenship DOES NOT MATTER.

Legally speaking, Ted Cruz's case is SLIGHTLY more iffy, as there does not seem to have ever been a clear and explicit decision. But the entire weight of legal opinion seems to be that "natural born citizen" is equivalent to "US citizen at or by birth."

Therefore it seems very, very likely that if Ted Cruz were to run and be elected President, he would be declared to meet the Constitutional qualification as well.

Or, to put it more simply: Yes, almost certainly, Ted Cruz is a natural born citizen.

264 posted on 03/09/2013 10:12:29 AM PST by Jeff Winston
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