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To: Jeff Winston
No, but the entire rationale of the case, for dozens and dozens of pages, had to do with who was and was not "natural born."

Immaterial. You, yourself admit the claim that Wong Kim was determined to be a natural-born citizen is false, yet it is still being presented by you as a truth via the specious reasoning of the 'rationale' instead of the FACTS of the case.

You, sir, are a fraud.

874 posted on 03/10/2013 5:01:50 PM PDT by MamaTexan (To follow Original Constitutional Intent, one MUST acknowledge the Right of Secession)
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To: MamaTexan; Jeff Winston

WKA was found to be both a NBC and a 14th Amendment citizen, and those two classes were held to be identical.

You will have a hard time understanding a case you refuse to read.

And what a court ‘holds’ is far broader than just the final statement of the decision. You also might want to read up on binding precedence and persuasive precedence. Although, of course, to date you have refused to read anything...

“The decision of a court or judge; the reasoning underlying such a decision.” - Webster’s New World Law Dictionary Copyright © 2010


876 posted on 03/10/2013 5:20:18 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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To: MamaTexan
Immaterial. You, yourself admit the claim that Wong Kim was determined to be a natural-born citizen is false, yet it is still being presented by you as a truth via the specious reasoning of the 'rationale' instead of the FACTS of the case.

I admit no such thing. The Court VERY CLEARLY determined Wong Kim Ark to be a natural born citizen, as I explained in my last post.

My admission was that they did not explicitly state IN THEIR CONCLUDING STATEMENT, "Wong Kim Ark is a natural born citizen." Instead, because the QUESTION they were asked was, "Is Wong Kim Ark a citizen?" they said in the concluding statement, "Yes, Wong Kim Ark is a citizen."

But along the way, they VERY, VERY CLEARLY found him to be more than just a "citizen."

It is completely clear that they DETERMINED that he was a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

And this is not disputed by ANY SIGNIFICANT LEGAL AUTHORITY anywhere in the United States. It is only idiotic birthers who can look at this case and make the completely idiotic claim that the Court "failed to determine that Wong Kim Ark was a natural born citizen."

877 posted on 03/10/2013 5:21:37 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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