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To: Exmil_UK

Do you really believe that, for example, a conservative Republican from a deep red state, like say, Wyoming, where 1% of the population is black is concerned about anyone playing the race card?
Did the race card stop House Republicans from issuing a Contempt of Congress citation for our first evert black Attorney General?

I have a relative who was a staff member to a former member of the Republican Majority in the House. There was a Republican National Committee meeting in 2008 that Governor Lingle participated in via conference call. Shortly after the New Hampshire primary in 2008, a conservative rank and file Republican sued John McCain and the Republican National Committee on the grounds that RINO McCain was not a natural born citizen due to his birth in Panama. McCain’s attorneys and the RNC’s attorneys decided to use the Article III standing defense to get the lawsuit dismissed. That defense succeeded, the lawsuit was dismissed.
http://www.moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/litigation/hollanderv.mccain.php
Unfortunately for the plaintiff, a birth certificate that he proferred as an exhibit showing John McCain having been born in a private hospital in Colon, Panama was fake. McCain was born at Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone.

Several members of Congress raised the question of Obama’s eligibility as the “Obama is ineligible” movement was just getting off the ground in early Spring, 2008.
The congressman that my relative worked for was a part of that meeting where the McCain campaign (following the lead of the Hillary Clinton campaign) decided to look into Obama’s birth records through Governor Lingle. Governor Lingle asked her Director of Health to confirm the existence of a Hawaii birth certificate for Obama and report back. Hawaii published a News Release on October 31, 2008 stating that Obama’s birth records were on file. At that time, the primary issue being raised was whether there was any birth record at all for Obama.
Sometime later, persistent complaints from constituents prompted the congressman that my relative worked for to request a report
from the Congressional Research Service on Presidential Eligibility and Natural Born Citizenship. That report was issued in 2011: “Qualifications For President and the Natural Born Citizen Requirement.” The 53 page report pretty much shut down any opposition to Obama on eligibility grounds for the 2012 election cycle. Yes, Congressional Research Service reports can often carry that much weight.
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42097.pdf


62 posted on 04/22/2013 12:48:20 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus
Republican GOP-e Senators are highly vulnerable to media pressure, only principled conservatives are immune - but these are isolated and few in number.

NBC/ABC/CBS and other broadcast networks have a disproportionate hold over low information voters, media heat soon drops a politicians poll numbers.

Governor Lingle was Republican in the same way Governor Crist was Republican. Both were/are puppets of the democratic party.

Both people were pure GOP-e in 2008, seekers of office not truth.

To even run as Republican in a Democratic fiefdom like Hawaii requires many “Deals.”

66 posted on 04/22/2013 1:25:28 PM PDT by Exmil_UK
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To: Nero Germanicus
As for Mccain, I don't know if he was eligible or not. I would like to think that because his father was “serving in the Armies of the Nation,” Mccain was still a NBC.

However some of the language in the US-Pamama treaty is total double-speak, typical of the sort of mush you get from diplomats.

The point is not actually that he was or was not NBC, it was that there was a sufficient element of doubt to get Mccain to agree a non aggression pact.

Low level staffers are not even going to get a hint of something that sensitive.

67 posted on 04/22/2013 1:35:14 PM PDT by Exmil_UK
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To: Nero Germanicus
The congressman that my relative worked for was a part of that meeting where the McCain campaign (following the lead of the Hillary Clinton campaign) decided to look into Obama’s birth records through Governor Lingle. Governor Lingle asked her Director of Health to confirm the existence of a Hawaii birth certificate for Obama and report back. Hawaii published a News Release on October 31, 2008 stating that Obama’s birth records were on file. At that time, the primary issue being raised was whether there was any birth record at all for Obama.

No, the primary issue wasn't whether there was a birth record at all, but whether the jpg that Obama presented in June 2008, and that factlack dot org CLAIMED to have photographed in August 2008 (despite embedded data showing the pictures ere taken in March 2008) was a genuine Hawaiian birth certificate. The news release issued by the HI director of health delicately avoided that issue. Second, this recollection about the Republican governor seems to leave out the falsehood she made in 2009 where she claimed that 2008 news release said that Obama was born in Kapiolani Hospital. It did not say this. Second, Lingle made it sound like she was providing a timely response to the issues raised about Obama's birth certificate, but the news release only came out three days prior the election. IOW, too late for anyone to make a reasonable challenge.

80 posted on 04/22/2013 11:11:37 PM PDT by edge919
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