And here I wondered if might be clashing swords with you in vigorous debate about whether there are legitimate reasons to doubt the certificate, but after a single (yes, a long one, I realize) reply to your post, you abandoned parrying and jabbing and tried dropping a piano on my head.
If I'm not mistaken our dialogue could be roughly summarized in this way:
ME: Hey rawlycat, I don't think its fair to declare the Birth Cert forgery evidence "irrelevant."
YOU: Hey ecinkc, did you ever consider that the reason everybody in congress ignores the Birth Cert forgery evidence is because they realize that it doesn't stand up to the fact that GOP Gov Lingle and her chums at the HDOH already told us "everything is hunky dory"?
ME: Oh, um, hi there Nero. Well, despite Governor Lingle's assurances, I actually think there's a long list of statements and actions which seem to thoroughly tip the balances toward casting doubt on Lingle's statement and adding strength to the forgery evidence. Can't you see why I would be influenced by the following issues?: long list, long list, long list, lon . . . etc.
YOU: Oh yeah, you lousy loser? How about this? Your puny team of weaklings loses everything! You lost this battle, you lost that battle, and then you lost these other fortyleven battles over there. You've never won anything, and no one who even counts agrees with you at all, dweeb! Your ridiculous Russian queen is the laughing stock of the entire universe right about now! All you do is lose, lose, lose, because you and your 17 loser friends are all a bunch of big, fat losers!
So if I'm to give you the benefit of the doubt I'll suppose you have chosen this course of "argument" because you actually do care enough to want me to come to the truth and have decided the best tact to accomplish that for a loser like me is to remind me of the overwhelming majority consensus standing against me and my rag-tag band of comrades. Maybe you thought, "I know how to refute each and every pathetic argument the pitiful ecinkc is launching, but who has time to work through all of the that? The best way to get through to this dolt is to tell him all his tea party heroes and all the judges and legal scholars in the land loudly and consistently disagree with him." Or, maybe you thought, "Hmm those would be interesting arguments to evaluate and research and hear him out on, if I wasn't already so sure that something so preposterous as a president getting away with a forged birth certificate is simply impossible. So I'll just give him the big picture and be done with it."
In either of those cases, I must agree that the numbers are thoroughly sobering and daunting, and I would be a fool to not consider the fact that if the whole world is against me, there's a good chance I'm simply mistaken. The trouble is, on this Obama identity fraud issue, it seems I'm just so remedial as to be incorrigible. I'm afraid I'm forever going to be lost in my bizarro-world until someone stoops to my level and convincingly goes toe-to-toe with me on the facts, weeding out my irrational views one at a time. So, you big bully, I've heard you out. I am a twerpy little loser on a team full of losers that practically everyone on the face of earth disagrees with, and so for that reason alone I should wake up and realize I must be wrong. I'll be spitting up sand for weeks, and I hope you're satisfied. Now, don't you have enough to do elsewhere, without having to take over my little spot in the playground also?
On the other hand if I'm to be less generous in my assessment of your tact, I might wonder if perhaps you're feeling as though you're outmatched when it comes to arguing the objective facts on whether Team Obama and the HDOH has been shooting straight with us. Perhaps then, as a result you've realized your best shot is to attempt to break my resolve (and that of others who may be watching) by rubbing my face in the fact that no one who's anyone is honestly giving the objective evidence its due weight. You hope that forcing me and others to face the crushing blow of the inevitable futility of our efforts, will be enough to get some of us to give up and go home. At the same time, faced with your inability to keep up with the arguments focused on actual evidence, this "yeah but you measly pipsqueaks have lost every game you've ever played in" offers you some comfort along with the empty pleasure you feel from gloating.
If it's this latter paragraph which describes you best, you are not merely a bully, you are a villain who stands against reason and wisdom. You should stop what you're doing right now and rethink your life.
Have a nice day! :-)
I have no problem whatsoever with criminal investigations by a statutory law enforcement agencies (which is not a volunteer posse’) or formal grand juries being convened to look into criminal indictments being issued for forgery, document tampering and identity theft.
I say Go For It! It should be obvious to all that civil suits will not do the trick.
My preferred method for getting to the bottom of the eligibility question would have been congressional hearings with witnesses being called to testify under oath with the threat of Making False Statements, perjury and contempt of congress indictments hanging over their heads. I was really hoping that such hearings would have occurred during the 2012 campaign season so that Obama would have had all the attendant publicity and media attention that Congresssional testimony and subpoenas bring. But the Republicans decided to go with Fast & Furious and Benghazi rather than natural born citizen-gate.
Your creative writing contributions are very entertaining. Thanks for the chuckles.
You have a nice rest of the day as well; take good care.
Count me in the rag-tag band, please. Carry on. I love a lopsided spat. You’ve overwhelmed the underwhelmable.