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1 posted on 04/26/2013 10:12:16 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

And the great American experiment in Liberty dies.


2 posted on 04/26/2013 10:13:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

They think Barry’s CommieCare is in trouble now, wait until 33 million foreigners are added to the list. LOL!


3 posted on 04/26/2013 10:16:57 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I got expelled from the "fundamental transformation" indoctrination center.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I have said it over and over again, 30-50 million newly legalized illegals comprised of former illegals and their immediate families.

I had an exchange with another freeper who was defending Rand Paul’s position and he could not wrap his mind around this number. I said that any “immigration reform” that includes a “path to citizenship” is not acceptable. We must fight this with all our might. This is literally an existential moment for our republic. Please, please, call and write your representatives and tell them NO! to “path to citizenship” and NO! to anything that does have border enforcement before anything else.


5 posted on 04/26/2013 10:22:53 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Might as well just give the entire country to Mexico and be done with it.


6 posted on 04/26/2013 10:23:20 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Jet Jaguar

That would exceed the combined population of the above states.

7 posted on 04/26/2013 10:24:45 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

Well, they’ve already got us pressing one for English.

The politicians on this have done no research. NO thinking no consideration.

Next to the framers they look like Lisa Douglas from Green Acres.

And that is dangerous considering the weight of their plan.

Rubio is being played like a one eyed jack.


8 posted on 04/26/2013 10:36:28 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Jet Jaguar
Most of the 33 million will go on welfare.
9 posted on 04/26/2013 10:36:37 PM PDT by detective
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To: Jet Jaguar
The gang of 8 and media keep saying their bill will address the 11 million undocumented (illegals ) living here. That number is probably a low estimate...keeps getting repeated no one questions it.
19 posted on 04/27/2013 3:14:19 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Jet Jaguar

And new gun bill pushed will lessen the time an illegal can aquire a fire arm


21 posted on 04/27/2013 3:24:06 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Yesterdays conspiracies are todays truths)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Liberals despise companies that outsource their labor to other nations.

Yet, liberals have no problem outsourcing US jobs to criminal border-crossers who have no desire to become American citizens.

Most of the illegal aliens are like locusts, traveling to the country that turns a blind eye to them while they consume everything in sight.....jobs, healthcare, education, etc.

Once this nation is consumed, they will move on to the next opportunity.


22 posted on 04/27/2013 3:29:24 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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-—— Original Message -——
From: Lee Keslin
To: McClellan, Jon (Cruz)
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 12:52 PM
Subject: Rebuttal mexico

AMNESTY TWO ISSUES NEVER TOUCHED

ACTIVE FR’S IF YOU SEE ANY CREDITABLE REPORTS OF PROBLEMS AMERICAN CITIZENS ARE HAVING WHILE LIVING IN MEXICO PLEASE POST THEM.....

(1) When is the treatment of American citizens in Mexico and their rights vs US treatment of Mexicans going to be an issue when we discuss amnesty ? And two other questions US legislators should ask

Here are three questions:that has yet to appear on any US legislator’s questionaire from either chamber

ASK YOUR FEDERAL LEGISLATORS WHY THEY HAVEN’T

Issue One

!...Should Mexican citizens when in the US be given the same rights American citizens are given while in Mexico? .......Americans entering Mexico illegally get shipped back post haste

2.. The Mexican government through public statements and educational system lays claims to major portions or all to some of our southwestern states as part of the Mexican nation . Are we asking for trouble by granting their illegals an expressed path to our citizenship laying the groundwork for “squatters rights” at some future date ?

3... If it is deemed necessary to supplement the US labor force by allowing itinerant labor should the individual states make the determiniation as to the number should the offer being needed ? And should that offer not be restricted simply to Mexican nationals but to other central and south American countries as well ?

Issue 2

What makes it necessary for US to subjugate our sovereignty because of available cheap labor ? While the Godless Demo-Coms socialists encourage population control and abortion . Then complain the US is not reproducing enough citizens to replace its aging retiring workforce. But rely on as the Romans did on foreigners (barbarians) .to keep their welfare ponzie schemes supplied with tax money and keep the system working.....

On the Mexican problem

Ever hear of reciprocal aggrements ? These are arranged to protect the rights of American citizens working or living in other countries.

Why is it when it comes to citizens of other countries we are required to offer them the same privledges as we do to US citizens? But when it comes to US citizens who get in trouble or attempt to do business in other countries they do not get the same treatment their citizens get.

Americans can’t own coast land in Mexico. And get no title to it elsewhere. If they run out of cash they’ll get unceremoniously sent back or put in jail untill some relative comes up with the “fresh”. That’s just for starters as for granting them voting privledges yea let’s give Mexican citizens that right (over other countries from south American tying up their quotas) when American citizens vote in their elections .


26 posted on 04/27/2013 3:42:28 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause..Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I have a great idea. Why don’t these people clean up their own countries?


27 posted on 04/27/2013 3:58:57 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Jet Jaguar
WAIT A MINUTE HERE...WHAT'S THIS?:

'The pending Senate immigration bill would bring a minimum of 33 million people into the country during its first decade of operation.estimated 9.2 million illegal immigrants, plus 2.5 million illegals who arrived as children — dubbed ‘Dreamers’ — plus roughly 3.4 million company-sponsored employees with university degrees, said the unreleased analysis. 33 EFFIN MILLION? AND ONLY 3.4 WITH UNIVERSITY DEGREES? HUH?..... PSST WE DONT NEED MORE sure fire welfarers....

As USUAL ANNIE COULTER EXPLAINS IT ALL.....(and bye the bye shouldn't this elucidation appear on 9 out of 10 Conservative Congressmen's blogs?)

WHAT WOULD WE DO WITHOUT ANN'S GENIUS columns.....?

ANN'S rightly concerned that were're gettin boatloads of those TSARNAEV jaspers! WHAT THE HELL KIND OF A DEAL IS THAT?

READ THIS: 'we're told Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev (of the Back Bay Tsarnaevs) were disaffected "losers" -- the word used by their own uncle -- who couldn't make it in America. Their father had already returned to Russia. Tamerlan had dropped out of college, been arrested for domestic violence and said he had no American friends. Dzhokhar was failing most of his college courses. All of them were on welfare. (Dzhokhar was given everything America had to offer, and now he only has one thing in his future to look forward to ... a tenured professorship.)

My thought is, maybe we should consider admitting immigrants who can succeed in America, rather than deadbeats. But we're not allowed to "discriminate" in favor of immigrants who would be good for America. Instead of helping America, our immigration policies are designed to help other countries solve their internal problems by shipping their losers to us. The problem isn't just illegal immigration. I would rather have doctors and engineers sneaking into the country than legally arriving ditch-diggers. Teddy Kennedy's 1965 immigration act so dramatically altered the kinds of immigrants America admits that, since 1969, about 85 percent of legal immigrants have come from the Third World. They bring Third World levels of poverty, fertility, illegitimacy and domestic violence with them. When they can't make it in America, they simply go on welfare and sometimes strike out at Americans.


28 posted on 04/27/2013 4:19:34 AM PDT by jimsin (n)
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To: Jet Jaguar
One further thought.

GOP....why?

If we keep fishing from the same ol pond, were gonna keep catchin the same ol big mouth bass.

We gotta change what were doin y'all. There's only a handful of folks in the party who still can be considered conservative constitutionalists.

Time and again the notion of changing the party from the inside utilizing the primary process has failed. Sure, one-zy, two-zy we pick up a good representative, then we lose a couple.

Turncoats like McCain, Graham, Bohner, remain firmly in control. We keep fighting the same battle for the party all the while the socialist gain ground little by little until...now.

Third party seems to always be foo foo’d. Any thoughts?

32 posted on 04/27/2013 4:56:57 AM PDT by servantboy777
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Was listening to Graham lie through his teeth to Hannity on the radio yesterday. Hannity was too busy kissing his ass to ask any serious questions about it.


37 posted on 04/27/2013 6:20:18 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Jet Jaguar
The pending Senate immigration bill would bring a minimum of 33 million people into the country during its first decade of operation

After they're here, where are their jobs and health care supposed to come from?

40 posted on 04/27/2013 7:35:18 AM PDT by lowbridge
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