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Edward Snowden: Hero or traitor?
Coach is Right ^ | 6/12/13 | Michael D. Shaw

Posted on 06/12/2013 4:42:23 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax

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To: oblomov

Oh, I see.


21 posted on 06/12/2013 5:56:13 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I am not going to do the 10 minutes of hate on this guy. This issue is the NSA and not him.


22 posted on 06/12/2013 5:56:24 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Oldpuppymax

The only difference between Snowden and Obama and his cronies is Snowden aided American citizens with the truth and Obama constantly aids al Qaeda with weapons, money, and policy.


23 posted on 06/12/2013 5:58:01 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Bluestocking; All

Sorry this so called hero went to China... He is a traitor..


24 posted on 06/12/2013 6:06:06 PM PDT by KevinDavis (The Bill of Rights is a suicide pact.)
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To: DManA

Well he is definitely working on the darker side of grey when he goes to Hong Kong and then starts spouting off about us trying to hack the Chinese. I hope we are hacking the Chinese, but that isn’t a secret that harms Americans so why did he divulge that? The answer is to make himself more attractive to the Chinese who may now allow him to stay in Hong Kong.


25 posted on 06/12/2013 6:16:40 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Revolting cat!

I think some may think it’s special pleading to condemn Ellsburg and Manning, but not Snowden. Something tells me that fallacy doesn’t apply but it won’t come to me.
Maybe it is special pleading. Keep in mind the anti-Snowden are being consistent while the left is just sore ‘cause its ox is getting gored.
Like all of us. Awkward, like learning from your sister she liked Derek and the Dominoes too.


26 posted on 06/12/2013 6:18:52 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Snowden running into the open arms of the Chicoms makes him a scumbag to me.


27 posted on 06/12/2013 6:23:44 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: windsorknot

Once I learned that he was an obama supporter, he became a scumbag to me.


28 posted on 06/12/2013 6:24:56 PM PDT by sport
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To: sport

I smelled a RAT from the beginning.


29 posted on 06/12/2013 6:35:33 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: windsorknot

A lot of people did. Unfortunately, I was not one of those people.


30 posted on 06/12/2013 6:39:48 PM PDT by sport
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To: Oldpuppymax
Could it be that he is still working for the CIA.
He did not get hired by Booz Allan without
a Top Secret Compartmented clearance.
He would have gained the SCI at the CIA.
What were the facts of his leaving the CIA ?

This is not what it seems.
He is still working for the CIA,
on a mission to bring down BO


31 posted on 06/12/2013 7:06:22 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: USNBandit
"I hope we are hacking the Chinese, but that isn’t a secret that harms Americans so why did he divulge that? The answer is to make himself more attractive to the Chinese who may now allow him to stay in Hong Kong."

Agreed on security and offensive measures for us. He was a systems administrator. And he doesn't know anything about those kinds of servers, that the Chinese crackers don't know. Knowledge regarding those servers is about even from nation to nation, worldwide.

I did *not* do any work maintaining servers for our government, but I've played with all kinds of low level work on my own over the years using some of the most secure servers. A couple of the BSD systems with open security development have been the best on the planet (and may still be, with modifications). OpenBSD received much official attention in those circles a few years ago (including contracts--public news, see "Theo de Raadt").


32 posted on 06/12/2013 7:20:08 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Go to BING,Enter,Curt Weldon,Data Mining. Read the articles and learn about the Data Mining that was Began in 1999,that if listened to would have prevented 9/11. Only Problem there was Bill Clinton was President,Janet Reno was Attorney General,Jamie Gorelick was asst. attorney General.
Ammazing information,Remeber Abel Danger,this info is amazing!


33 posted on 06/13/2013 5:39:57 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Oldpuppymax

A more important question was why did he have access to this info in the first place?

Seems like another system breakdown, and after Manning too.


34 posted on 06/13/2013 6:00:04 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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