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To: servo1969

Which leads me to the other possibility — that those who want Zimmerman thrown in jail, no matter what the evidence may say about the injuries he sustained in the encounter, believe that a violent attack is an appropriate response to a perceived racial slight or perceived case of racial profiling.


This.

It has become clear, as I read the rantings of the “rank and file” of the left, that my first suspicions about this were correct: This is a clash of cultures. It is Klingon culture vs civilization. They abide by completely different rules.

In Klingong cutlure, when your enemy wants a fist fight, you throw down your gun and duke it out. In civilization, you do an Indiana Jones: A guy comes at you with a sword? You pull out your gun and shoot him. The former considers it bad form to not trust your physical prowess against a much more physically powerful opponent.

But in a civilized, but sometimes dangerous world, even feminists understand the value of carying the Great Equalizer in their purses. George understood that concept and it probably saved his life.


5 posted on 07/15/2013 9:14:52 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

Yep. That is the central focus and has been from the get-go. In a moment of honest candor, a St. Martinite might even confess to said dogma.


7 posted on 07/15/2013 9:20:00 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: cuban leaf; All

“In Klingong cutlure, when your enemy wants a fist fight, you throw down your gun and duke it out. In civilization, you do an Indiana Jones: A guy comes at you with a sword? You pull out your gun and shoot him. The former considers it bad form to not trust your physical prowess against a much more physically powerful opponent.”

What you are talking about is actually the “code duello” which is pretty civilized behaviour. There are rules to insure fairness, the duel is to satisfy honor, with no requirement of death or wounding, and those who violate the rules are stigmatized and shuned by society.

Virtually none of that exists in the criminal “thug” culture of today.

The criminal culture of today is much more of a “tribal culture”.

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2013/05/armed-citizens-and-modern-frontier.html


9 posted on 07/15/2013 9:22:39 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: cuban leaf; marktwain

I would agree with your central premise that this is a clash of radically different cultures. However, I agree with MT that you do a disservice to Klingons everywhere by equating them to hood culture. Hood culture is degenerate, caused in large part by the dissolution of traditional family structure, an essential framework for producing civilized children. Too many of the children being produced by the current hood culture are truly feral, not concerned, IMHO, with mano a mano fairness, an enlightened idea, but with something unspeakably baser and less civilized.

BTW, this is not a new phenomenon. It occurred in the Soviet Union as well, an entire generation of lost boys (and girls) subjected to the social experiment of trying to negate the nuclear family, resulting in an intolerable escalation of incurable youth thuggery. It is worth noting not even the Soviets could sustain that delusion indefinitely, and it may even be a factor in their present ferocious defense of traditional marriage, etc.


12 posted on 07/15/2013 10:20:45 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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