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Xerox 7655 Overview Picture (Obot claims to replicate Obama LFBC pdf w/floating signature)
Native and Natural Born Citizenship Explored ^ | August 6, 2013 | NBC

Posted on 08/07/2013 6:29:11 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

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To: butterdezillion

That wasn’t clear. They are working to have digitized copies of all the BC’s but don’t have the very old records digitized yet so when they get a request for a COLB from the early times it takes them extra time to process the request because they first have to digitize the record - which could be creating a digital image and/or entering the fields into a digital record so that an abstract (short-form) can be created.

This policy of not allowing photocopies makes a lot of extra work for them and delays for their customers. It’s also illegal as heck but that’s Hawaii government in a nutshell. Fast becoming the entire state and federal government in the United States too...


81 posted on 08/08/2013 9:31:33 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: butterdezillion

Don’t misunderstand. I do believe there is something very very wrong with the Obama’s BC narrative - and “photoshop conspiracy” isn’t it.


82 posted on 08/08/2013 9:32:00 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: ctdonath2

Since Onaka wouldn’t verify that the White House image is a “true and accurate representation of the original record on file”, he effectively confirmed that it ISN’T. IOW, the legal custodian of the record, who alone can tell anybody else what is on that record, has confirmed that the White House image is a forgery.

It’s just one of many crimes committed on this issue, and the natural question that follows is why they forged this BC. That gets into the bigger picture. And yes, I do believe there is a bigger picture. But if a person believes Onaka’s legal disclosure they have to conclude that forgery is one crime that was committed to cover up something Obama and/or his handler doesn’t want the world to know. To him and his handler, forgery must have seemed small compared to what they are hiding. We can’t prove what he was hiding but we can know that forgery was committed to hide SOMETHING. Though forgery is only a small part of the story, it is a crime and the prosecution of that crime should lead to discovery which would reveal the big whopper that the crime was meant to hide.

Does that make sense?


83 posted on 08/08/2013 9:41:17 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: butterdezillion

It would be helpful if you could actually identify the law enforcement agencies that you are referring to.
If a law enforcement agency is afraid to make arrests, they get zero respect from me for their cowardice and politicization.
It is then up to the prosecuting attorney in any jurisdiction to decide whether to pursue prosecution, but law enforcement should do its job.


84 posted on 08/08/2013 10:44:47 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: butterdezillion

As I said, two Secretaries of State asked for and received Letters of Verification in Lieu of Certified Copy from the Hawaii Registrar and both of them used the letters to put Obama on the ballot in their states. The U.S. District Court Judge in Mississippi has the third letter from Dr. Onaka.

“I have no doubts now, Kobach says of Obama birthplace.”
http://www.kansas.com/2012/09/17/2492998/kansas-expects-to-end-challenge.html

“Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett said Tuesday night that he has received information from Hawaii that proves President Obama’s American birth and satisfies Arizona’s requirements for having the president on the upcoming election ballot.”
http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/articles/20120522obama-birth-hawaii-arizona-verification.html#ixzz2bRtdRuuh


85 posted on 08/08/2013 11:04:41 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus
After months of push-back and guff from Hawaii Bennett was cowed into asking for a "verification letter".

Bennett's statement is worthless... he hadn't even seen Hawaii's response before his pronouncement. Wisch told him he sent the "verification letter". Bennett had his fig leaf which is all he cared about.

Secretary of State Ken Bennett said Tuesday evening that he has received an e-mail from officials in Hawaii, which he believes contains the information he sought to verify President Barack Obama's birth certificate.

Bennett said he had not actually opened the email as of 7 p.m. Tuesday, but was confident it contained the information he asked for.

http://www.azfamily.com/news/politics/Latest-on-bennett-152793135.html

Kobach was covered upthread... the complaint was withdrawn under duress.

All attention is directed to the WH PDF but under no circumstance will the underlying document be presented. The WH PDF is a PR stunt. Even his legal team says it is not to be relied upon.

There's a raging 500 sq mi forest fire: EVERY single "document" and EVERY single process has been anomalous. Just keep looking at that PDF, sucker.

86 posted on 08/08/2013 11:51:54 PM PDT by Ray76 ( Common sense immigration reform: Enforce Existing Law)
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To: butterdezillion; Jeff Winston
IMO, it is not a coincidence that the items not specifically verified in the Arizona verification are the 6 items on the request form (same form to order a BC).

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/pdf/birth.pdf

Hawaii Statute §338-14.3 says the DOH shall furnish "a verification of the existence of a certificate and any other information that the applicant provides to be verified relating to the vital event that pertains to the certificate."

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/vol06_ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0014_0003.htm

The 6 items on the form gets you the "verification of the existence of a certificate" (those are the items that helps them determine they have the correct certificate). And the other 10 items SoS Bennett requested are the "other information" mentioned in 14.3.

Also in the Arizona verification is Dr. Onaka's statement that he verifies that the information on the PDF matches the information on the original BC on file.

Take these two lists

List 1

1) Obama

2) 8/4/61

3) Honolulu

4) Amended

5) Delayed

List 2

1) Obama

2) 8/4/61

3) Honolulu

Can you verify that the information in List 2 matches the information in list 1?

87 posted on 08/09/2013 12:10:24 AM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan
Also in the Arizona verification is Dr. Onaka's statement that he verifies that the information on the PDF matches the information on the original BC on file.

 


88 posted on 08/09/2013 12:49:26 AM PDT by Ray76 ( Common sense immigration reform: Enforce Existing Law)
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To: Ray76

I verify “the information matches”

versus

I certify this is a “true and accurate copy of the original record on file”

Yeah, the information “matches” but I can’t attest that it’s true and accurate. Gosh shucks.


89 posted on 08/09/2013 1:00:03 AM PDT by Ray76 ( Common sense immigration reform: Enforce Existing Law)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

If they could scan the word Negro and transform that to African in a PDF, we’re in trouble.

Now that would impress.


90 posted on 08/09/2013 4:03:37 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: 4Zoltan

Here’s a picture of the plaque in the lobby of the Kapiolani hospital, commemorating the birth of the most famous world leader since the birth of Christ:

Take a good look at that image. I traveled all the way to Hawaii to get that image. I took the pic on a Samsung phone, flew back to PA, ran it through a Xerox 7765.
As you can see, the zerox copier gave my pic a white halo.


91 posted on 08/09/2013 4:50:31 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Nero Germanicus

Here’s the pic I took of the statue outside the Kapiolani Hospital. You pass this statue of Obama as you enter the hospital:


92 posted on 08/09/2013 4:57:34 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Nero Germanicus

The Cold Case Posse with Mike Zullo has used the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office sources within the department to conduct its investigation of Obama’s birth certificate. That investigation found Obama’s birth certificate 100% forged along with his selective service registration. It was a real legitimate investigation.


93 posted on 08/09/2013 5:32:20 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: PA-RIVER; Nero Germanicus

When you were there did you take a picture of Obama’s letter to Kapiolani?

A copy is supposedly on display.

“Peters says Kapi’olani actually has a reproduction of the “original letter” on display at the hospital.”

““The original is something that we treasure, and we know that it came from Mr. Obama,” she said”

http://www.wnd.com/2009/07/104146/


94 posted on 08/09/2013 6:45:32 AM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

No, I did not see that letter. I spoke to the Administrator.
She explained that the letter is now under lock and key, with all other evidence that has been manufactured in recent years, aside from the commemorative statue and plaque of course.

Since he won the Nobel Peace prize, people have been flocking to his birthplace to be photographed at this most sacrosanct location on planet earth. As you can see in the picture, my wife has her hand on his knee. The statue is huge, the shoulders stand at 12 feet, befitting a man of such colossal achievement.


95 posted on 08/09/2013 7:46:31 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: 4Zoltan
Looked at the supposed LFBC posted on the White House website. It's missing the "registrar's raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal" as required by the U.S. State Department when using a birth certificate as proof of citizenship to apply for a U.S. passport.
http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_830.html

The LFBC posted by the White House only has a black stamp. We know it's only black and not multicolored because the safety paper background is green, so a multicolor stamp would be visible.

96 posted on 08/09/2013 8:01:18 AM PDT by Rides3
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To: 4Zoltan

Zoltan, if you look closely at my pic of the commemorative plaque, can you see the white halo? Not around the plaque itself, but in the plaque, the mold of Obamas head. You can see a halo above his head.

This would explain the religious nature of Obama voters. That connection they feel toward Dear Leader. It seems any pic of Obama that is run through a zerox 7778659 will put a halo above his head. I tried it on my Zerox 77777563. White halo. Maybe he is sent from God?


97 posted on 08/09/2013 8:12:26 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: 4Zoltan

The information that is actually on the list in List 2 matches what is on List 1.

The HDOH’s own explanation for how they do verifications contradicts what you are claiming. They say they can only verify information that is actually submitted. The only way it would even be possible for them to do otherwise - the only way that anybody could be confused about that at all - is if they actually list on the verification ALL the items that they are verifying, and they want to make it clear that they will not verify all the facts of birth if only one or two are submitted for verification.

And it is contradicted by the very verification itself, because they mention ONLY Honolulu. If the verification itself was verification of every fact submitted then they should not have picked out one lone “fact” and mentioned it in the verification.

All they verified was the existence of a birth certificate for Barack Hussein Obama, II.

And the truth of the matter is that Onaka did not legally certify any of the verifications. The seal on those verifications is not Onaka’s seal. And the person whose seal it is (Loretta Fuddy’s) did not sign anything on those verifications. So we’ve got mismatched seal and signature, resulting in a document that isn’t lawfully certified - leaving neither Onaka nor Fuddy culpable for the greater crime of perjury, although both are still culpable under the Federal General False Statement Act.

The long and the short of it is that Hawaii was required to give a certified verification of every submitted fact that they can verify as true, and they gave a non-certified statement that refused to even MENTION any fact submitted on the application form except Honolulu (and their mention of Honolulu was only that it was “indicated” on the BC).

This matches the private statement by one of the HDOH workers that all verification requests - even ones known to be legally acceptable - had to be sent to the AG’s office so the AG could find a reason to deny the request, since it would look fishy if they give letters of verification for others but never for Obama. Because they would never issue a letter of verification for Obama. And they didn’t issue a legally-certified letter of verification for Obama. The director’s seal is supposed to be used next to the signature of the director, and Fuddy’s name is not on any of those letters of verification.

It is also consistent with Janice Okubo’s official UIPA response to me that they don’t issue letters of verification - in response to my request for a blank copy of the form they use to issue letters of verification. She said what I requested doesn’t exist because they don’t do letters of verification. Now we see OHSM FORM V-01 (08/01/01), which Okubo told me doesn’t exist. And we see a supposedly-certified letter of verification that Okubo said they don’t do. But it isn’t lawfully certified and it doesn’t verify any of the facts submitted on the verification application.

Also, the way of requesting a letter of verification is the same way of requesting a certified copy of a BC. If they have to have all the critical information submitted so they can verify that a BC exists for that person, then Obama didn’t submit enough information to be able to get copies of his BC; in Corley’s letter requesting the long-form (seen at http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-correspondence.pdf) there is no mention of an application form - the only attachment she mentions is a letter from Obama - and the birth facts supposedly necessary for “locating” the BC were not included in her letter OR Obama’s.

What I’ve been saying all along about these supposed “letters of verification” for Obama not verifying anything is supported by the statutes, Ken Bennett’s own acknowledgment, what can be seen physically and forensically on the documents themselves, and both official/public and private communications by multiple HDOH workers. In addition, the records released by the White House show that Obama’s own request does not fulfill the legal requirements to get either a BC copy or a verification, if your theory about how they do things is correct.


98 posted on 08/09/2013 8:12:47 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Rides3

It does have a raised seal. The seal is visible in the PDF and on the photo taken by Savannah Guthrie.

The State Department does not require the seal be multicolored that’s why they say “or” not “and”.

The seal is not black but consists of raised indentions in the paper caused by embossing tool.


99 posted on 08/09/2013 8:26:22 AM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: Nero Germanicus

ALL law enforcement agencies are afraid to make arrests. I can’t divulge everything I know because my sources are trusting me and haven’t released me to give details. But I know for a fact that law enforcement is aware of crimes and will not prosecute them. Every state AG in the country was notified of Bob Bauer’s election fraud in submitting a known-perjurious Official Certification of Nomination. Nobody will do a dang thing about it. In Nebraska, the AG’s office would not even accept my criminal complaint about it; sent it to the SOS’s office as if the SOS was law enforcement. The Lincoln Police Dept would not forward the complaint to the AG’s office because it was nixed by the higher-ups in the office, without giving any reasons and ignoring the probable cause standard for initiating an investigation.

On my blog I’ve posted statements by Okubo and the ombudsman’s office saying that they will not investigate known crimes or report them to law enforcement. Hawaii’s US Attorney’s office doesn’t allow the public to even have contact information for the attorney. The Honolulu Dept of Public Safety only allows me to report crimes via a web form, and they never even acknowledged that they got the report.

In fact, all that was the reason I went public with my research. For me, this has never even been about Obama. It’s been about the utter and absolute failure and corruption of law enforcement in this nation and in every state. That’s why I have to say BS to anybody who says this is a piddly little issue that is only embarrassing and a waste of time.

The officer I spoke with at the Lincoln Police Dept told me what I had already known: that both the state AG’s office and the FBI had blatantly lied to me in order to blow off the criminal reports I was going to make to them. Somebody who went to a LOT of trouble to evade identification by using gates and tripwires said that he/she had created Obama’s forged BC but it was futile to resist because the FBI knows they did it and would cover for them all. IOW, this person claiming to have created the forgery says that the FBI is in on it. A Lincoln Police Dept officer said the FBI lied to me in order to blow off my report of the crime.

The manipulation of the BC#’s indicates that if the HDOH even tried to use a legal reason for assigning Obama with somebody else’s BC#, it was because LAW ENFORCEMENT requested a fake BC to be created in order to protect Obama. Which law enforcement person that was, I don’t know, but I know from first-hand experience that we’ve got more than enough corrupt bastards willing to do it. And that makes me incredibly sad and angry.


100 posted on 08/09/2013 8:35:01 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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