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To: BigGuy22

The attorneys can’t submit any more evidence in the cases at this point, if I understand correctly - or else I would have a bunch of stuff I could give Klayman to use for that purpose. Specifically the evidence showing that the letters of verification were never lawfully certified. They have Onaka’s signature (initialed in 2 of the 3) but not Onaka’s raised seal. They have Fuddy’s raised seal (that the statute says must be next to the director’s signature) but not her signature. So they’ve got mismatched signature and seal, which doesn’t qualify it as lawfully certified under Congress’ codified standards for Full Faith and Credit, which applies because these are documents from one state submitted in a court of another state.

But Klayman informed Bob Bauer BEFORE the DNC Convention that Onaka had effectively confirmed that Obama’s BC is non-valid by refusing to verify facts he is required to verify if they are claimed on a valid BC. I’ve got a bunch of stuff about it on my blog at http://www.butterdezillion.wordpress.com . I’d fetch the exact link but my computer is slow as molasses again and I don’t have time to wait around for it. Darn thugs. This happens every time I start posting a bunch of stuff about this issue.


204 posted on 08/11/2013 12:38:37 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: butterdezillion
BZ, I think you are confused. Rule 902 of the Federal Rules of Evidence says:

The following items of evidence are self-authenticating; they require no extrinsic evidence of authenticity in order to be admitted:

(1) Domestic Public Documents That Are Sealed and Signed. A document that bears:

(A) a seal purporting to be that of the United States; any state, district, commonwealth, territory, or insular possession of the United States; the former Panama Canal Zone; the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands; a political subdivision of any of these entities; or a department, agency, or officer of any entity named above; and

(B) a signature purporting to be an execution or attestation.


Note that it says "purported to be," and there is no question that the Letters of Verification bear items that are "purported to be" a stamp and a seal.

That leaves an opening for the other side to counter the documents' presumption of authenticity. Since that hasn't been done, the documents are legally considered to be authentic.
206 posted on 08/11/2013 12:47:20 PM PDT by BigGuy22
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