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To: Steve Van Doorn
I am looking forward to see how Putin deals with Islam. I am sure the church is going to have a role in it.

I've been saying for some time that part of the explanation for Putins' embrace of the church is chess-playing, long-term strategic thinking. He knows, maybe not in his heart, but in his brain and in his guts, that the only way to fight a religion like Islam is to encourage the Christian religion. The lesser of two evils (in his mind). But whatever his motivation are, I'll take it.

9 posted on 08/20/2013 10:56:32 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (It is the nature of liberals to pervert whatever they touch.)
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To: NurdlyPeon

or maybe, Putin is finally free to support the church and his faith -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3d_yxJhmjk


10 posted on 08/20/2013 11:31:43 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: NurdlyPeon

[Putins’ embrace of the church is chess-playing,]

The KGB’s historical predecessors were the “church’s” secret police - the Oprichiniki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oprichnina

Good reason to prohibit such state-establishments in a free country where the governed have the right and responsibility to contradict the errors of the fallible and uninspired eunuchs who would govern and enslave them.


23 posted on 08/21/2013 5:52:42 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: NurdlyPeon
During the Chechen wars there were some shifts in populations but they have settled down and muslim populations have returned.

Note at the bottom of this post. "2007 Russian and other Slavic populations decrease in number while the largely Muslim populations of nationalities indigenous to the North Caucasus grow." It looks like when Ramzan Kadyrov (muslim) took over he is using unethical means by the police to force Russians and Slavic out.

http://demographymatters.blogspot.com/2013/04/some-notes-on-chechens-and-chechen.html

This is nearly exactly the kind of thing that took place in Kosovo by the Muslims. When Milošević attempted to deal with the problem the western world turned against him.

It will be interesting to see how Putin deals with it.

27 posted on 08/21/2013 9:42:42 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: NurdlyPeon
said, "whatever his motivation are, I'll take it."

I agree it is a step in the right direction. It will be a long time before the church could recover though and it will take leadership participation more then just support.

30 posted on 08/21/2013 9:55:08 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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