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To: edge919

This is my final post on this thread.
If a person seeking access to a confidential Hawaii birth record does not qualify in one of the categories detailed in HRS 338-18, DOH will not grant access and no court has ever ruled that HDOH must grant access under UIPA or any other statute or administrative rule.
Eligibility challengers have sought Writs of Mandamus to force DOH and Hawaii judges to release Obama’s birth records. They have failed, as has every other legal strategy that has been employed since 2008.
It’s been nice debating these issues with you but now, I’m done. I’ll leave the last words on the subject to you.


350 posted on 09/22/2013 10:57:39 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus
This is my final post on this thread.

It's about time. You haven't presented anything compelling. That's a good reason to find a topic you're better suited to debate.

If a person seeking access to a confidential Hawaii birth record does not qualify in one of the categories detailed in HRS 338-18, DOH will not grant access and no court has ever ruled that HDOH must grant access under UIPA or any other statute or administrative rule.

I've already addressed these points. You've ignored what I've written. Plus, there's evidence that Hawaii has refused to grant access to birth records where the applicant directly qualified under 338-18 (Virginia Sunahara's family), and I already explained that the UIPA does NOT mandate the release of records BUT it DOES ALLOW THE RELEASE of records. Hawaii has no compelling reason not to disclose any and all of Obama's birth records. Until they do, claims about Obama's birth are just hearsay.

Eligibility challengers have sought Writs of Mandamus to force DOH and Hawaii judges to release Obama’s birth records. They have failed, as has every other legal strategy that has been employed since 2008.

I'm sorry, but all this does is prove that Hawaii will go out its way to avoid documenting its own claims about Obama. Until they do, any claim about Obama's place of birth is legally considered to be hearsay.

It’s been nice debating these issues with you but now, I’m done. I’ll leave the last words on the subject to you.

Somehow, I doubt this is honest. And if you post false claims based on these same arguments in other threads, there's a good chance I'll be there again explain exactly why you're wrong.

351 posted on 09/23/2013 10:36:17 PM PDT by edge919
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