Posted on 09/15/2013 10:22:23 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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There most assuredly will be a roll back of the homosexual movement. Already in many parts of Europe homosexuals are afraid to display themselves as homosexuals in public. The Muslim immigrants who have become so prevalent there tend to take a dim view of such theatrics. Now that Muslims are established there, it won't be long until they have a plurality. The future belongs exclusively to those who have children and the Muslims do that particularly well. Given enough time the demographics will also change here in a similar way but perhaps with a different form of religious zealotry.
Get used to the integration of the poofter demographic into our daily affairs and try to make the cognitive leap to where we can communicate with them to the degree that we can influence them away from the more egregious expressions of their sexual orientation-i.e. pederasty, sado-masochism and blatant recruitment.
They cannot abandon their core ideals and it is folly to think that there is anything we could compromise enough to get them to do so.
This is a tough one to swallow, to be sure, but that’s the way the cookie is crumbling in a technological society with more freedom than humans have ever experienced on the planet before.
The sad pun in your mixed metaphor aside, authentic freedom is not at issue here for them. The homosexual movement is attacking real religious freedom by attempting to destroy the family.
Pray that it’s a phase, a reaction to the heavy handed suppression of homosexuality historically, not to mention a the undeniable quantity of “vigiliante” gay bashing that was carried out in the US, most likely not by men who voted Democrat, and that, with integration and a lessening of threat to gays, it will subside from being a live issue.
This isn't a backlash, it's a highly coordinated subversive movement that has long been aligned with the Communist Party and the Democrat Party.
There is a surprisingly large number of gay conservatives out there. Why not at least try to increase their numbers via diplomatic means?
Even the Democrats know that attempting to win the votes of active homosexuals is a fool's errand for Republicans. All that will be gained by compromising the conservative position is the loss of the Republican base. The homosexuals are no more likely to vote against the homosexual party as black people are likely to vote against a black president.
Why did conservatives get into bed with Rupert Murdoch in the first place? He is a longtime purveyor of tabloid trash. He never had any morals. Why should anyone be surprised that the Glee network is totally gay?
>>Lookit, chil’ren, there isn’t going to be a rollback on gay rights, period.
>There most assuredly will be a roll back of the homosexual movement. Already in many parts of Europe homosexuals are afraid to display themselves as homosexuals in public. The Muslim immigrants who have become so prevalent there tend to take a dim view of such theatrics. Now that Muslims are established there, it won’t be long until they have a plurality. The future belongs exclusively to those who have children and the Muslims do that particularly well. Given enough time the demographics will also change here in a similar way but perhaps with a different form of religious zealotry.
I don’t see your observation of a roll back due to Muslim intervention or any other “zealotry”. What you describe is a marginal phenomenon except perhaps lately in Russia. The so called “gay liberation” movement is emphatically NOT losing momentum in North America or Europe but continue to make inroads into mass media and education. As an FR reader you should know this from the many articles and threads on the subject, this one being not exceptional.
>>Get used to the integration of the poofter demographic into our daily affairs and try to make the cognitive leap to where we can communicate with them to the degree that we can influence them away from the more egregious expressions of their sexual orientation-i.e. pederasty, sado-masochism and blatant recruitment.
>They cannot abandon their core ideals and it is folly to think that there is anything we could compromise enough to get them to do so.
No one has to compromise anything. Homosexuality is not a core ideal, it is an engineered ideal created by sexual abuse and other childhood psychological cause factors, including very early ones. We can certainly start by understanding what those causes are and create a society with better parenting skills.
>>This is a tough one to swallow, to be sure, but that’s the way the cookie is crumbling in a technological society with more freedom than humans have ever experienced on the planet before.
>The sad pun in your mixed metaphor aside, authentic freedom is not at issue here for them. The homosexual movement is attacking real religious freedom by attempting to destroy the family.
The “sad pun” was unintended. I don’t spend a lot of time trying to make my posts into literary masterpieces. Clear your head and understand that modern technological society with massive lateral communication is the freest humans have ever been in all history, period. This freedom is what societies are coping with in an attempt to reset positive social behavior against a background of varying social conservatisms by definition. That what “society” is, a means of conserving positive normative behavior patterns, which have evolved through intense periods of zealotry and oppression. The root cause of Muslim intraction is precisely the effect of modernization upon a feudal tribalist cultural ethos.
>>Pray that it’s a phase, a reaction to the heavy handed suppression of homosexuality historically, not to mention a the undeniable quantity of “vigiliante” gay bashing that was carried out in the US, most likely not by men who voted Democrat, and that, with integration and a lessening of threat to gays, it will subside from being a live issue.
>>This isn’t a backlash, it’s a highly coordinated subversive movement that has long been aligned with the Communist Party and the Democrat Party.
Yes, but not to the degree you assume. And you’ll have to convince me that these commies are not the ones responsible for the sexual conservatism found presently in Russia, China and North Korea. The corrupting of ethics and morals in the West, which you correctly observe, is not the sole domain of Marxist influence. You will find it in Las Vegas, Wall St., New Orleans, Spring Break anywhere, porn markets anywhere with much of it an outgrowth of advertising. In case you haven’t noticed, “sex sells”.
>>There is a surprisingly large number of gay conservatives out there. Why not at least try to increase their numbers via diplomatic means?
>Even the Democrats know that attempting to win the votes of active homosexuals is a fool’s errand for Republicans. All that will be gained by compromising the conservative position is the loss of the Republican base. The homosexuals are no more likely to vote against the homosexual party as black people are likely to vote against a black president.
The “Republican base” is a chimera manipulated by Wall St. and oligarch power brokers to rubber stamp their invisible hand strategies. It’s entertaining to me to see Freepers coming into line with lefty observations about police brutality, Wall St. chicanery, intel community shennanigans, America as global policeman, big pharma, the benefits of natural foods/alternative medicine and the pathology of bullying.
Your Republican base is on the verge of a Tea Part vs. Rino schism that could torpedo the US doing what Australia and Norway just did. We need to get smarter faster, that’s all there is to it.
Not at all. The Muslims are also attacking homosexuals and others throughout western Europe who offend their religious views. Entire neighborhoods in almost every major city are now considered off-limits to anyone considered non-traditional.
The so called “gay liberation” movement is emphatically NOT losing momentum in North America or Europe but continue to make inroads into mass media and education. As an FR reader you should know this from the many articles and threads on the subject, this one being not exceptional.
They have made some political headway, but the long-term demographics are completely against them.
The “sad pun” was unintended. I don’t spend a lot of time trying to make my posts into literary masterpieces.
This topic warrants care in the choice of one's words. Much of your writing here is very difficult to follow.
Clear your head and understand that modern technological society with massive lateral communication is the freest humans have ever been in all history, period. This freedom is what societies are coping with in an attempt to reset positive social behavior against a background of varying social conservatisms by definition.
Any human advance cuts both ways. The sweeping technological changes you speak of are irrelevant in the long-term to people who do not have children beyond replacement rate. Muslims don't teach "Timmy has Two Mommies" in the madrassas.
That what “society” is, a means of conserving positive normative behavior patterns, which have evolved through intense periods of zealotry and oppression.
You have a novel definition of society.
The root cause of Muslim intraction is precisely the effect of modernization upon a feudal tribalist cultural ethos.
That sounds like something taught in a large liberal-arts colleges.
Yes, but not to the degree you assume. And you’ll have to convince me that these commies are not the ones responsible for the sexual conservatism found presently in Russia, China and North Korea.
In my travels I haven't seen any of the conservatism you refer to.
The corrupting of ethics and morals in the West, which you correctly observe, is not the sole domain of Marxist influence. You will find it in Las Vegas, Wall St., New Orleans, Spring Break anywhere, porn markets anywhere with much of it an outgrowth of advertising. In case you haven’t noticed, “sex sells”.
That advertising maxim may or may not be true. The question here is the type and orientation. Homosexuality tends to be generally unpopular as most people recoil from it.
The “Republican base” is a chimera manipulated by Wall St. and oligarch power brokers to rubber stamp their invisible hand strategies. It’s entertaining to me to see Freepers coming into line with lefty observations about police brutality, Wall St. chicanery, intel community shennanigans, America as global policeman, big pharma, the benefits of natural foods/alternative medicine and the pathology of bullying.
Not following you there, but the Republican base was and remains socially conservative.
Your Republican base is on the verge of a Tea Part vs. Rino schism that could torpedo the US doing what Australia and Norway just did. We need to get smarter faster, that’s all there is to it.
I have no idea what you are talking about here. You and I seem to have some beliefs in common, but I do not share your pessimism and eagerness to appease, surrender, and attempt to assimilate the homosexual movement. Although the pendulum may have swung in their favor in recent decades, all future indicators are against them. Demographics is destiny, and the homosexual movement has no heirs.
It has been very difficult to understand your typing and the nature of the argument you are attempting to make. Proof reading your posts is a common courtesy. So, I'll leave it here and give you the last word.
And no mention of how much they *hate* God’s rules over His creation...planet earth. They ignore the owner’s manual to their own peril.
I’ve barely pinged anything for quite a while.
I better start my pinging again.
For some reason the elites are all jumping on the sodomy train. It’s like the end of the Roman empire or something.
Why are you such an expert on faggot conservatives? If there were so many, odd that we never hear from them.
Your overweening arrogance is duly noted.
>>There is a surprisingly large number of gay conservatives out there. Why not at least try to increase their numbers via diplomatic means?
>Why are you such an expert on faggot conservatives? If there were so many, odd that we never hear from them.
Stop talking through your hat and do some ding dong research:
http://gayconservative.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_conservatism
>Your overweening arrogance is duly noted.
Anyone who interprets actual knowledge as arrogance is an ignoramus. We need to get smarter faster, that’s all there is too it.
>Not at all. The Muslims are also attacking homosexuals and others throughout western Europe who offend their religious views. Entire neighborhoods in almost every major city are now considered off-limits to anyone considered non-traditional.
Those “entire neighborhoods” are Muslim ghettos that are off limits to ANYONE not Muslim, including the police. I don’t see how you can conclude that this indicates a roll back of gay rights. With information at our fingertips, remaining uninformed becomes politically deadly, ask Rush Limbaugh who coined the term “low information voter” then read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_first_LGBT_holders_of_political_offices
>They have made some political headway, but the long-term demographics are completely against them.
See the above link.
>This topic warrants care in the choice of one’s words. Much of your writing here is very difficult to follow.
We need to get smarter faster, and that include you.
>Any human advance cuts both ways. The sweeping technological changes you speak of are irrelevant in the long-term to people who do not have children beyond replacement rate. Muslims don’t teach “Timmy has Two Mommies” in the madrassas.
1) Islam is not going to save the world from the gay scourge. 2) Not having children directly (ever hear of surrogate parenthood?) doesn’t seem to have kept them from reaching numbers and influence enough to cause you to worry about it or to have a strong opinion about it.
>>That what “society” is, a means of conserving positive normative behavior patterns, which have evolved through intense periods of zealotry and oppression.
>You have a novel definition of society.
If a society is not defined by the behavior patterns it protects and causes to endure through conflict, then it’s defined by what, the rate at which it decays and dies? Sheesh.
>>The root cause of Muslim intraction is precisely the effect of modernization upon a feudal tribalist cultural ethos.
>That sounds like something taught in a large liberal-arts colleges.
Now there’s an insightful rejoinder. What you really need to understand is how those “large liberal arts colleges” became leftist revetments, how did they get that way? Who was asleep at the wheel? If our education system is such a powerful society shaping asset, then how the hell did we lose control or fail to take control of it?!
>>Yes, but not to the degree you assume. And you’ll have to convince me that these commies are not the ones responsible for the sexual conservatism found presently in Russia, China and North Korea.
>In my travels I haven’t seen any of the conservatism you refer to.
Good grief, Putin just announced the disfavor which he feels towards gay rights and it hit the front pages around the world. This stuff is only a mouse click away, no excuse. Read this:
http://www.policymic.com/articles/58593/putin-s-war-on-gays-a-timeline-of-homophobia
>>The corrupting of ethics and morals in the West, which you correctly observe, is not the sole domain of Marxist influence. You will find it in Las Vegas, Wall St., New Orleans, Spring Break anywhere, porn markets anywhere with much of it an outgrowth of advertising. In case you haven’t noticed, “sex sells”.
>That advertising maxim may or may not be true. The question here is the type and orientation. Homosexuality tends to be generally unpopular as most people recoil from it.
Don’t wiggle out of the point I’m making- our culture is also being assaulted by free market advertising which comprises 10% of all media watched and listened to. If the gays had that much air time, you’d freak. That’s the problem, advertising is corrupting in ways that are accepted and are surreptitious and mostly occur with little protest. Ever see a Calvin Klein billboard? You can’t blame it all on the commies. That’s exactly the same as “Bush did it”.
>>The “Republican base” is a chimera manipulated by Wall St. and oligarch power brokers to rubber stamp their invisible hand strategies. It’s entertaining to me to see Freepers coming into line with lefty observations about police brutality, Wall St. chicanery, intel community shennanigans, America as global policeman, big pharma, the benefits of natural foods/alternative medicine and the pathology of bullying.
>Not following you there, but the Republican base was and remains socially conservative.
I can’t make it any clearer. Apparently you don’t hang out here much. If the cops break down your door by mistake and shoot the dog, I expect you’ll be looking for a civil rights lawyer, just like any liberal. Read my comment again, it’s in plain English.
>>Your Republican base is on the verge of a Tea Part vs. Rino schism that could torpedo the US doing what Australia and Norway just did. We need to get smarter faster, that’s all there is to it.
>I have no idea what you are talking about here.
This is not rocket science. Australia and Noway just elected conservative governments. There have been probably 20-30 posts about this on FR the past week. The fact that the term RINO exists _means_ there is a schism in the Republican Party. Hello!
>>You and I seem to have some beliefs in common, but I do not share your pessimism and eagerness to appease, surrender, and attempt to assimilate the homosexual movement.
It’s not an eagerness to please or surrender anything, it is simply not a strategically relevant issue towards which to throw resources in the present economic state of emergency. We need to overthrow the Wall St. financial oligarchy, period. Their predecessors are who we fought our revolution against.
>Although the pendulum may have swung in their favor in recent decades, all future indicators are against them. Demographics is destiny, and the homosexual movement has no heirs.
Not a strong argument. Their demographics have done nothing but improve. See the above links. Learn to chart a graph.
>It has been very difficult to understand your typing and the nature of the argument you are attempting to make. Proof reading your posts is a common courtesy. So, I’ll leave it here and give you the last word.
All I’ve done is utilize the evidence available to any citizen via the Internet. It’s easy, you should try it.
If homosexual is conservative, he or she will not be on board with the homosexual agenda. The “Log Cabin Republicans” and GOProud pretended to be “gay conservatives” and both orgs were just Trojan horses.
The homoesxual agenda, including fag marriage, is non-conservative and unconstitutional and an open door to perversion, destruction of the natural family, marriage and the social fabric, as well as ushering in tyranny.
When homosexuals start being vocal about their opposition to the homo agenda, I’ll listen to them.
Until then - they’re part of the problem, no matter how much they advsertise themselves one way or another.
Speaking of advertising, I got as far as this on the wiki link, merely more advertising.
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>>Speaking of advertising, I got as far as this on the wiki link, merely more advertising.
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Dude, this is avoidant behavior, what are you afraid of?
Avoidance? I took a look at the wiki “info” and it’s some peoples’ personal opinions. I took a look at the second, and the same thing.
Anyone who self identifies as a “gay” this or a “gay” that is mentally ill. If a person with homosexual issues identifies with something other than his perversion, then such a person might hold conservative (ie Constitutionally valid) viewpoints. But if sexual perversion comes first, then there is no way that person is “conservative”.
I’m wondering what you’re trying to imply that I am afraid of.
I will tell you what I am afraid of, in connection with the homo-nazi agenda. I’m afraid of our constitutional liberties being taken away and our society being destroyed. I’ve been afraid of this since the late 80s, and now it’s here.
FNC suffers NYC disease.
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