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Virginia Democrat Calls For Forcing Doctors To Accept Medicare And Medicaid Patients
masonconservative.typepad.com ^ | 11/2/2013

Posted on 11/03/2013 5:02:00 AM PST by RoosterRedux

You would think that when your party is burying a hole that is getting harder and harder to get out of, you wouldn't want to that hole get deeper faster. But here is Kathleen Murphy, Democrat running for the House of Delegates against Barbara Comstock, telling a forum in Great Falls that she believes it should law to force doctors to accept Medicare and Medicaid patients. Forced by government decree, mind you. A birdie sent me this:

FYI last night at the Great Falls Grange debate, Democrat delegate candidate Kathleen Murphy said that since many doctors are not accepting medicaid and medicare patients, she advocates making it a legal requirement for those people to be accepted.

She did not recognize that the payments are inadequate to cover the doctors' costs. She also did not recognize there is a shortage of over 45,000 physicians now and that it is forecast to be 90,000 in a few years.

Democrats appear to want to make physicians slaves of the state, but Democrats don't admit they would just drive more doctors out of practice into retirement and other occupations. The Obamacare law and regulations are causing millions of people to lose their health insurance, drop many doctors and hospitals. The HHS internal forecast is 93 million Americans would lose their health insurance due to the Obamacare law and rules about adequacy of insurance.

Many more people will be uninsured. The penalties for being uninsured start at $95 per year, but the penalties can't be collected by the IRS if a person does not have a tax refund to attach.

The out of pocket costs required by Obamacare's Silver Plan for a non-smoking mother and father with two children making a gross before income taxes of $50,000 (roughly average salary for VA) would be $13,765 per year including the deductible of $10,400. That's 28% of their gross income -- not very affordable and about the same as guidelines for a mortgage payment. For such a family making $100,000 of gross income, The cost would be $21,431 including the deductible of $12,700, or 21% of gross income.

With such high deductibles doctors are stuck with trying to collect cash from the patients, even at regulated charge structures. Thus is makes sense for primary care doctors not to participate in Obamacare, medicare and medicaid. They should encourage patients to participate in Concierge Care and insurance programs run by the doctors themselves with patients who can do simple math. Patients can take out catastrophic insurance with high deductibles for major surgeries. Tax deductability for individual medical savings accounts would make health care more affordable.

The head of Obamacare programs, Berwick, loves the socialized medical system in the UK, but never mentions that malpractice insurance is minimal. In the UK, panels of doctors review and approve malpractice awards, rather than emotional juries misled by trial lawyers. Malpractice reform like this with caps on malpractice awards would go a long way in making health care affordable.

I hope physicians rise up and speak out for common sense, protecting quality medical care in the US and giving patients freedom to choose

THIS along with the fact that Terry McAuliffe has already said he'd go to the government shutdown mat to get a state exchange in Virginia. Unbelievable. Combine the chaos of thousands of people across Virginia losing their health insurance, we are going to add to that on the state level by forcing doctors to accept patients they can't afford to help? Unbelievable. Dark days are ahead, but there is still time. Three days to make sure this does not happen.

Democrats in Virginia will drive up health care costs, drive doctors out of the state, and then drive health care costs up even more because there will not be enough doctors practicing in the state.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: abortion; barbaracomstock; deathpanels; kathleenmurphy; medicaid; medicare; obamacare; virginia; zerocare
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1 posted on 11/03/2013 5:02:00 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: sleepy_hollow; Mad Dawg; EDINVA; JPG; Hawthorn; Paisan; ConservativeOrBust; VA_Gentleman; ...

va ping


2 posted on 11/03/2013 5:02:55 AM PST by Perdogg (Ted Cruz-Rand Paul 2016)
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To: RoosterRedux

Mr. Roberts.

clink clink tinkle everyone?

Where did that sponge go?

The hemostat?


3 posted on 11/03/2013 5:03:41 AM PST by Spartan302 (Spartans never quit, they come back later with more warriors. Asymmetrical Warfare.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Remember when the AMA opposed Medicare? What a cluster.


4 posted on 11/03/2013 5:03:43 AM PST by lafarge
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To: RoosterRedux

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5 posted on 11/03/2013 5:05:07 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: RoosterRedux

How many didn’t see THAT coming...


6 posted on 11/03/2013 5:05:48 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: RoosterRedux

Va, flush the rats starting with McAuliffe, I’m beginning to smell the stench down here in NC.


7 posted on 11/03/2013 5:05:52 AM PST by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: RoosterRedux
The HHS internal forecast is 93 million Americans would lose their health insurance due to the Obamacare law and rules . . .

Raise your hand if you remember that the key rationale for ramming this POS bolus down the public throat was because we had 30 million uninsured Americans.

8 posted on 11/03/2013 5:08:09 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: RoosterRedux

all that will do is drive prospective doctors into other fields and then they can bring in are their non English speaking ME male doctors who think female patients are lower than their camels. Just had a run in with one of them, he talked to my husband who could not answer his questions, and is use to language issues cause he is a ret. prof. as well as Ret. SCPO. But he would not talk to me the patient.


9 posted on 11/03/2013 5:09:00 AM PST by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: RoosterRedux
Mr. Attorney General, answer the phone I hear opportunity calling.


10 posted on 11/03/2013 5:09:35 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: RoosterRedux
Well, one has to posess a certain minimum level of intelligence in order to be aware that one is in a hole.
11 posted on 11/03/2013 5:09:55 AM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Wasn’t there a buried provision of obamacare making doctors liable to be impressed into service for the govt?
(err “nationalized”?)

http://patdollard.com/2009/10/indentured-servitude-doctors-will-be-drafted-under-obamacare-with-video/

anyone who attended a govt funded school or got a govt funded or guaranteed loan could end up as a govt employee?

when humans become a “resource’ to be controlled by the govt


12 posted on 11/03/2013 5:10:24 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Vigilanteman

I remember.

HHC’s husband


13 posted on 11/03/2013 5:10:50 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: Travis McGee

And when Boxer is no longer useful, they will ship him off to the glue factory....


14 posted on 11/03/2013 5:11:54 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: RoosterRedux
Democrats in Virginia will drive up health care costs, drive doctors out of the state, and then drive health care costs up even more because there will not be enough doctors practicing in the state.

Easy problem to resolve. Make all medical practitioners and their families wear tracking devices. Never allow doctors to vacation with tier families out of state. Then we can cut the pay of greedy doctors and make them live in government supplied housing units. /s

15 posted on 11/03/2013 5:12:38 AM PST by D Rider
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To: RoosterRedux

How very Soviet of her. How about we force food stamp recipients to mow our lawns and wash dishes?


16 posted on 11/03/2013 5:12:45 AM PST by dforest
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To: RoosterRedux

When people start to balk at progressive nostrums you can bet the farm that the left will reach for forced compliance as the next step. Soon, the gulags and Holomodor.


17 posted on 11/03/2013 5:13:45 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: All

Well, it’s come full circle, and is out in the open. The Dems are now officially calling for the re-institution of slavery. Only now, instead of picking cotton, the slaves will check you blood pressure and give you a colonoscopy.


18 posted on 11/03/2013 5:15:43 AM PST by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: GailA
all that will do is drive prospective doctors into other fields and then they can bring in are their non English speaking ME male doctors who think female patients are lower than their camels.

yes, that script has already been played out in the UK's NHS.

19 posted on 11/03/2013 5:16:23 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: RoosterRedux
Kathleen Murphy, Democrat running for the House of Delegates against Barbara Comstock, telling a forum in Great Falls that she believes it should law to force doctors to accept Medicare and Medicaid patients. Forced by government decree, mind you.

She did not recognize that the payments are inadequate to cover the doctors' costs. She also did not recognize there is a shortage of over 45,000 physicians now and that it is forecast to be 90,000 in a few years.

Ms. Murphy went on to say that she believes doctors should not be allowed to move away from their current place of practice, sell their practice, change their profession, retire or die under penalty of death.

20 posted on 11/03/2013 5:16:25 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: GailA

“Muslim doctors and health care workers who aim to kill not heal - aiding and abetting global jihad by working in the US and abroad”
http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/3029


21 posted on 11/03/2013 5:17:16 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: RoosterRedux
"Medicare/Medicaid Patients will be seen . . . eventually.
Patients able to pay the cost of providing service will be seen first."

That strikes me as a good response to a demand that physicians act as slaves of our ruling class, at least until the next decree from the dictators.

22 posted on 11/03/2013 5:17:37 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Virginia Democrat Calls For Forcing Doctors To Accept Medicare And Medicaid Patients

Didn't take long for the Demonic Party scum to finally suggest their end game... government enslavement. Nobody saw this coming, did they? /sarc

23 posted on 11/03/2013 5:19:13 AM PST by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: RoosterRedux

This is what some folks might call one of them there litmus tests, wet finger in the air, ear to the ground, so on, and so forth. If Virginia can do it, then heck, mebbe’ good ol’ big-mamma gub-mint (the sow with a gazillion nipples) can start forcin’ doctors nationwide to accept them there gub-mint eentitlemint recipients. Don’t you just love it when the government forces people to do stuff? It’s all fun & games until somebody gets shipped off to the gulag, or until thirty percent of your doctors retire.


24 posted on 11/03/2013 5:19:17 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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To: RoosterRedux

Ja, Kaitleen Murphy, you look MOZT FETCHING in zat snappy Nazi uniform! Vy, I zink we put YOU in charge of zee Doctor Compliance Ztrike Team!


25 posted on 11/03/2013 5:20:14 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Pontiac
Ms. Murphy went on to say that she believes doctors should not be allowed to move away from their current place of practice, sell their practice, change their profession, retire or die under penalty of death.

The Roman emperor Diocletian came up with laws like that. Eventually, the Roman system of government faded away, but Europe was left with serfdom, which lasted in some locations into the 19th century.

26 posted on 11/03/2013 5:20:16 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: RoosterRedux
It's so good that you have to be forced.

It's always the same with these pukes. You must do this for common good, comrade. There is great leader, smile comrade. Great leader is ill, cry comrade. Cry more, comrade or else. Welcome to North Korea Virginia.

27 posted on 11/03/2013 5:21:36 AM PST by Ray76
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To: AD from SpringBay
Don’t you just love it when the government forces people to do stuff? It’s all fun & games until somebody gets shipped off to the gulag, or until thirty percent of your doctors retire.

Retire?

Operate, you bastard. I SAID OPERATE.

28 posted on 11/03/2013 5:22:49 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Travis McGee
In the Mind of the Collective, it always ends with or else.

Up against the wall, mo'fo!

29 posted on 11/03/2013 5:23:27 AM PST by metesky (Brethren, leave us go amongst them! - Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond, The Searchers)
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To: RoosterRedux

This Virginia voter may have to break out the “Ain’ts”- style paper sack, based on recent and possibly near-future developments in my state.

My apologies, America... Virginia isn’t well right now.


30 posted on 11/03/2013 5:24:14 AM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Let's force Kathleen Murphy and the rest of the democrats to accept the Constitution as written.
31 posted on 11/03/2013 5:24:37 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (On the evening of 10/16/13, the ailing republican party breathed its last breath.)
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To: RoosterRedux

AMA helped pass Obamacare. And now that it has been exposed as the destructive monstrocity it always was,

THE AMA STILL SUPPORTS IT!!!!!!!!

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/advocacy/topics/affordable-care-act.page

Disgusting.


32 posted on 11/03/2013 5:25:17 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: RoosterRedux

If You Have a Right,
To the Labor I Provide,
I Must Be Your Slave.

I know a doctor in Virginia who will just stop practicing if this comes to pass. She and her family will have to live a more modest lifestyle, but she will not take on the work, liability and stress of dealing with these patients for the paltry amount she would get from the government.


33 posted on 11/03/2013 5:26:30 AM PST by Haiku Guy (Gun Control Haiku: Say "Registration" / And they call you paranoid / So say "Privacy")
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To: KC_Lion; metesky; Lazamataz
I found an excellent collection of Animal Farm quotes.

https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/2207778-animal-farm-a-fairy-story?page=1

“Comrades!' he cried. 'You do not imagine, I hope, that we pigs are doing this in a spirit of selfishness and privilege? Many of us actually dislike milk and apples. I dislike them myself. Our sole object in taking these things is to preserve our health. Milk and apples (this has been proved by Science, comrades) contain substances absolutely necessary to the well-being of a pig. We pigs are brainworkers. The whole management and organization of this farm depend on us. Day and night we are watching over your welfare. It is for your sake that we drink the milk and eat those apples.” ---George Orwell, Animal Farm

34 posted on 11/03/2013 5:27:27 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: RoosterRedux
Democrat delegate candidate Kathleen Murphy
Another lame-brained American who doesn't know her heritage and the centuries of oppression by the "ruling" class:
35 posted on 11/03/2013 5:29:51 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: RoosterRedux

OK ... so then all docs should refuse to service all politicians.


36 posted on 11/03/2013 5:29:53 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Virginia Democrat Calls For Forcing Doctors To Accept Medicare And Medicaid Patients

That's a great idea. And I'll tell you why. It will open the door for other, similar, laws.

For example, I've always wanted a fully equipped Ford F-150 truck. If there were a law forcing a dealer to accept any offer I made, presto, I'd have a brand new truck.

What could possibly go wrong with that scenario?

37 posted on 11/03/2013 5:31:31 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Charley Reese’s final column for the Orlando Sentinel...
He has been a journalist for 49 years.
He is retiring and this is HIS LAST COLUMN.

This is about as clear and easy to understand as it can be. The article below is completely neutral, neither anti-republican or democrat. Charlie Reese, a retired reporter for the Orlando Sentinel, has hit the nail directly on the head, defining clearly who it is that in the final analysis must assume responsibility for the judgments made that impact each one of us every day.
It’s a short but good read. Worth the time. Worth remembering!

545 vs. 300,000,000 People -By Charlie Reese

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don’t propose a federal budget. The President does.

You and I don’t have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

You and I don’t write the tax code, Congress does.

You and I don’t set fiscal policy, Congress does.

You and I don’t control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one President, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a President to do one cotton-picking thing. I don’t care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator’s responsibility to determine how he votes.

Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The President can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? John Boehner. He is the leader of the majority party. He and fellow House members, not the President, can approve any budget they want. If the President vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted — by present facts — of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can’t think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

If the tax code is unfair, it’s because they want it unfair.

If the budget is in the red, it’s because they want it in the red.

If the Army & Marines are in Iraq and Afghanistan it’s because they want them in Iraq and Afghanistan ...

If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it’s because they want it that way.

There are no insoluble government problems.

Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish;
to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators,
to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power.
Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like
“the economy,” “inflation,” or “politics” that prevent them from
doing what they take an oath to do.

Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible

They, and they alone, have the power.

They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.

Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees...

We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.


38 posted on 11/03/2013 5:31:46 AM PST by unread
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To: RoosterRedux

“...telling a forum in Great Falls that she believes it should law to force doctors to accept Medicare and Medicaid patients. Forced by government decree,”

The problem with criticizing this Democrat idiot, is that you quickly expose the greater idiocy of all of Medicare/Medicaid as it is practiced today.

There are plenty of vociferous supporters of Medicare amongst so-called conservatives on this board.

There is nothing so stupid about this idiot Democrats proposal that is not equally stupid in the program itself.

Republicans, Democrats alike want Medicare - in fact DEMAND Medicare.

This candidate actually moves the debate a disturbingly miniscule amount - and we supposed conservatives pretend that this is a big deal - it’s not - not if we supposed conservatives on this board were not in vigorous opposition to the program before this suggestion.

We’re all socialists, some of us simply have not come to accept the obvious truth.


39 posted on 11/03/2013 5:32:30 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: RoosterRedux

Well, sure, and who’s surprised by this?. It’s the standard mindset of liberals that if you don’t do what they want you to do, then by hell, they’ll FORCE you.


40 posted on 11/03/2013 5:36:25 AM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: Travis McGee

“How very Soviet of her. How about we force food stamp recipients to mow our lawns and wash dishes?”

Food stamp recipients already make their contribution to society by being guaranteed Democrat voters.

So we’re supposed to force Doctors to accept Medicare and Medicaid, but it’s unreasonable to force Congressional staffers to accept Obamacare?


41 posted on 11/03/2013 5:36:32 AM PST by Junk Silver
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To: RoosterRedux

They already do to some extent — that’s why there are so many of the best doctors retiring.


42 posted on 11/03/2013 5:44:22 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: RoosterRedux

She is just revealing the Liberal endgame: we are all slaves to the Dear Leader.


43 posted on 11/03/2013 5:44:30 AM PST by rbg81
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To: RoosterRedux

The totalitarians always resort to force as a response for their failed policies.


44 posted on 11/03/2013 5:45:11 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Leaning Right

While we’re at it, we could also raise the minimum wage to $100/hr.


45 posted on 11/03/2013 5:46:28 AM PST by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Lazamataz; metesky

46 posted on 11/03/2013 5:46:54 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Uncle Chip

You have no idea how many of the physicians are cutting back or retiring. Some are putting it off for a while until either their kids get out of college or their alimony payments stop but 95% of those over 50 are making plans.


47 posted on 11/03/2013 5:48:22 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: RoosterRedux

Yes democrats, do it at gunpoint, you know you want to...lets get this show on the road.


48 posted on 11/03/2013 5:50:14 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: RoosterRedux

Well if they have to renew their license to practice medicine every so often the state could make them take ACA insurance otherwise their license wouldn’t be renewed. OTOH - they’ll flat quit.


49 posted on 11/03/2013 5:52:10 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: RoosterRedux

wow, do you think doctors will be legally allowed to move out of Virginia?


50 posted on 11/03/2013 5:52:20 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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