Posted on 12/20/2013 5:46:30 AM PST by IbJensen
The Tabernacles are now back on the altar. It was a mistake as you say.
You have valid criticisms, but don’t throw the baby out with the Etc.
There has always been corruption in the Church from the first.
Don’t shun Peter because of Judas.
Pray tell in what church is the tabernacle back in the enter of the altar? Have the girl altar boys been replaced? Are two species still offered at communion? Does the priest face the congregants thereby praying to them?
Is there a sanctuary candle lit as evidence that the Body of Christ is present?’
Do the noisy congregants still shake hands as a sign they are still awake?
Is communion distributed in the hand?
So many things that prove that a new religion has been created.
Is he even a priest?
Is “being a crank” a valid criticism of anyone? What virtue is being promoted here, and what does crankiness have to do with it? Do you mean the Church of Nice?
I am confused.
His orders may be valid, depending on how he obtained them. But they sure aren't licit. He's insulated himself from any recognizable authority, which causes all kinds of problems. Priests act in persona Christi. The stakes are rather high. They need the discipline of serving under authority.
Is being a crank a valid criticism of anyone?
Oy vey, you bet. "Crank" is another word for "fanatic," someone who" can't change his mind and won't change the subject" (Churchill). The problem with cranks is that they're self-seeking. Their appetite for battle knows no bounds, so they'll attack the truth itself, if the fancy takes them.
What virtue is being promoted here, and what does crankiness have to do with it? Do you mean the Church of Nice?
The virtue promoted by applying a crank-meter is humility. To be humble is to be truthful, because our powers are limited. Fallen man needs hierarchies of other people to help him stay honesteven though hierarchies are made of other fallen men. The cure for the Church of Nice is not the Church of Self, which is where cranks worship. A crank lives in his own private reality. His zeal so overpowers his judgment that he believes in his own authority, and is his own bishop, his own Pope, and his own God.
Okay, now you are using terms I understand. Yes, bitter zeal is something to be avoided. I don’t have this guy’s book yet, but it would not take long to determine if it is colored by this vice.
Maybe you are constrained by such a short space to say something about this author, but without additional information it remains an ad hominem argument. I am not asking you to do any homework for me, but that is where it stands.
The lack of leadership and the lack of adherence to orthodoxy in the hierarchy are causing lot of problems, especially among those who prefer the mass of the saints. Now that the Pope is actively suppressing a traditional order, there is even more confusion.
I miss our German Shepherd.
I looked him up on the Web. You'll probably come away with the same impression I did. We go to the Tridentine Mass on Sundays and big feasts. Daily in whatever's around. We miss Benedict as well. Francis does not appear to be actively hostile to the old Mass, but seems willing to promote men who are.
I know the Franciscan Immaculata. They have been undergoing a Latin-English split for years, probably young-versus-old. I only know the Traditional guys. I think it's important for today's traditional priests to be well-rounded, sociable, confident, with a sense of humor, and able to speak to the common manlike St. Thomas Aquinas. It's the best strategy for saving souls.
Not sure how you can instill well-roundedness at the seminary level, they need to be well-rounded before they get there. Having a great personality is a good addition to having a vocation.
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