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Want to Buy a New PC

Posted on 12/23/2013 12:43:41 PM PST by savedbygrace

So, I want to buy a new PC. I have a 4 year old Asus laptop and the screen has a lot of bad pixels. And I do not want to install Win7 again, but Start and Shutdown are both taking a long time, so I know I should re-install if I keep it.

So, my options are to buy a laptop with Win8, or a combo laptop/touch-screen with Win8. I will not buy a desktop PC.

What are the advantages of each, and which models would you recommend? I want as much RAM as possible, maybe 8GB, and the fastest processor I can afford. I want to keep it under $800, or not much more than that.

Note that I will not buy anything from Toshiba.

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1 posted on 12/23/2013 12:43:41 PM PST by savedbygrace
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To: savedbygrace

download adaware (free) from lavasoft. Run it and see if it doesn’t speed it up.


2 posted on 12/23/2013 12:45:13 PM PST by DannyTN (A>)
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To: savedbygrace

I’ve been impressed by the idea of the new systems that are both a laptop and a tablet. Haven’t yet seen one that functions really efficiently in both modes, though.

Also not crazy about the ones with a detachable keyboard, as I’m sure you’d invariably not have the keyboard with you when wanted. Not to mention chance of loss.


3 posted on 12/23/2013 12:46:47 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: savedbygrace

I finally dumped my PCs and bought a Mac Book Pro. It is more expensive, but I think the cost is worth it. The retina display is incredible.


4 posted on 12/23/2013 12:48:57 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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To: savedbygrace

Toshiba is one of the best. Like ASUS. And Lenovo.

(This reminds me of people who swear by one brand of gasoline, and promise never to buy another named brand.)


5 posted on 12/23/2013 12:49:01 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: savedbygrace

Try installing Ubuntu Linux on your old laptop. It won’t help with hardware issues like dead pixels but it will fix OS related issues. Best of all it is FREE.

Check compatibility first and you can even run the os from a thumb drive (without actually installing) to test compatibility.

My 7 year old dell laptop was dying a couple of years ago. I installed Ubuntu and it has been running like a champ ever since.

http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop


6 posted on 12/23/2013 12:50:23 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: savedbygrace
I WILL NOT buy Windows 8, if nothing BETTER is available I will buy  photo Apple_zpsd65db7f4.jpg
7 posted on 12/23/2013 12:50:27 PM PST by CMailBag
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To: savedbygrace

You missed the most important part which is what the heck you plan on doing with it. That will determine what the parameters of the laptop should be and since you did not tell us that there’s not much to say.


8 posted on 12/23/2013 12:52:25 PM PST by trapped_in_LA
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To: savedbygrace

My children and I like Windows 8.1 on a $1500 touch-screen desktop we bought from HP. We mostly use it in desktop mode, but touch is convenient and fun for the kids. It is fast. Skydrive, which gives you 7 GB of storage in the cloud, is neat.


9 posted on 12/23/2013 12:53:54 PM PST by reaganaut1
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To: savedbygrace

If your laptop is stationary, can you connect a $100 monitor to it? My ex has a Mac Air with an effed up screen and a 24’’ monitor which works just fine.


10 posted on 12/23/2013 12:54:10 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: savedbygrace
Start and Shutdown are both taking a long time
I strongly recommend Soluto. It's free, requires registration, but works.
You can also download it w/o registration from download.com
11 posted on 12/23/2013 12:54:27 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Mark17

What’s the noise level on that? (My current pc sounds like a jet engine taking off.) I’ve been thinking about a Mac Pro, but want something quiet! Thanks.


12 posted on 12/23/2013 12:54:37 PM PST by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: CMailBag

I hear Ethan Krupp uses a Mac.


13 posted on 12/23/2013 12:55:06 PM PST by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: savedbygrace

Wait until January. Lots of places will have big sales to boost sales and dump inventory.


14 posted on 12/23/2013 12:55:47 PM PST by Hugin
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To: savedbygrace

I’ve been using Windows 8 on the new HP for a few days and I like it. It takes some getting used to but no biggie.


15 posted on 12/23/2013 12:55:49 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Mark17

I’m looking at Ipads but need a “normal” sized USB output.

Are there any “Lightning-to-USB” adapters on the market?


16 posted on 12/23/2013 12:55:50 PM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: dhs12345

I have 4 older laptops that are either WinXP or Win7. I’ve made all dual boot with Linux Mint with the Cinnamon desktop. Mint is very easy to install and, for older machines, the Mint 13 version is generally compatible. The current version is 16.


17 posted on 12/23/2013 12:58:56 PM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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To: savedbygrace
Kind of out-of-the-box here, but you may wish to do some minor upgrades of the laptop you currently own. Not trying to discourage you from getting a new one, but just be aware that two cheap and easy upgrades to your current hardware will make a huge difference in the overall performance of your current laptop.

1) Add memory. If you are using 2gb of memory, or even 4gb of memory then put in 8gb or whatever max your laptop may have. Memory is pretty cheap.

2) Remove your old hard drive and install an SSD hard drive. You will be blown away at what a difference this will make in terms of start up times and overall performance. SSDs are pretty cheap now. I just bought a 256gb SSD for $139. You can get a 500gb on sale for less than $250. You can even get a 1tb SSD for about $550 now.

Do both of these combined and you probably won't need to buy a whole new laptop... unless you want to.

18 posted on 12/23/2013 1:00:11 PM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: savedbygrace

BFL...


19 posted on 12/23/2013 1:00:12 PM PST by TurboZamboni ("PEACE ON EARTH TO MEN OF GOOD WILL".)
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To: oh8eleven

Thanks for the tech referral on the software.


20 posted on 12/23/2013 1:00:56 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: savedbygrace

People seem to like Windows 8.1. Don’t let the Linux and Apple zealots deter you.


21 posted on 12/23/2013 1:02:23 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: savedbygrace

Get a Mac.


22 posted on 12/23/2013 1:02:31 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Carpe Cerevisi

That is completely believable.


23 posted on 12/23/2013 1:02:43 PM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: savedbygrace
I want to keep it under $800, or not much more than that.

I would suggest going to eCollegePC.com.

I have purchased 3 PCs from them and all have been stellar performers.

The have many pre-made configs but I would suggest using the Customer Builder and you can build your own. With free FedEx shipping, my last one cost me under $800.

AMD  FX  Configurator :

$733.00

This is using my current monitor, KB, mouse and speakers with subwoofer.

24 posted on 12/23/2013 1:03:40 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("Gun horror is not a productive emotion, but learned helplessness disguised as moral superiority.")
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To: Carpe Cerevisi
I hear Ethan Krupp uses a Mac.

Not true. Ethan Krupp uses Grundig, drives a Volkswagen, and eats sauerkrauten.

25 posted on 12/23/2013 1:05:21 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: savedbygrace

In January mrs p6 bought a HP Pavillion laptop from QVC without asking me. Came with W8...updated o 8.1 for free. Have to admit she loves it. Came with lifetime support which she used for minor stuff...basically adapting to W8.

No problems, less than $800...Maybe less than $700...I don’t recall.

Came on 6 payment plan...no questions asked.

It’s been a great machine for her! Took maybe a month...maybe less ...for her to adapt to W8 but the best part is I don’t have to be tech support.


26 posted on 12/23/2013 1:05:39 PM PST by prisoner6 (FREEDOM)
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To: NewHampshireDuo

I haven’t used Mint. But heck but it is except for the time to set it up and test it. Plus, Linux is indeed more secure.

My laptop would be collecting dust right now or be recycled. I have replaced the battery and keyboard. Pretty cheap to maintain since it is an old laptop.

I still keeps on chugging along. Using it right now.


27 posted on 12/23/2013 1:06:28 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: CMailBag
I WILL NOT buy Windows 8, if nothing BETTER is available I will buy...

...a gay computer?

28 posted on 12/23/2013 1:06:30 PM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: savedbygrace

Look at the Lenovo Yoga Pro. My son has had one for a year and likes it so much I purchased the Yoga Pro 2 for my wife for Christmas. The top of the line is over your budget but you can find one in your price range. I am very impressed with the machine. Absolutely get a touch screen.


29 posted on 12/23/2013 1:06:35 PM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: savedbygrace

Why not Toshiba?

This one is being released soon to BestBuy and you will not be able to find a better deal anywhere for any computer.

Toshiba - Satellite 17.3” Laptop - 8GB Memory - 750GB Hard Drive - Satin Black

$379.99


30 posted on 12/23/2013 1:08:15 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: newfreep
Are there any “Lightning-to-USB” adapters on the market?

Yes. They cost about $30. Get an "official" one rather than a knock off as Apple has done some things so the ipads can tell the difference between them.

31 posted on 12/23/2013 1:09:19 PM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: savedbygrace

There are a broad array of options.

but IMHO there are certain minimums

Intel i7 only.

300Gb minimum

I’m suspicious of Solid State drives but I think that they will get better over time.

I bought a MacAir and like it a lot. I have older Windows based PC’s which I have updated to Win8.1 and they function just fine and maybe better than the Win7 I had on them previously. Win8 is not an ideal GUI but it works just fine.

At this point I can’t speak to the WinRT boxes, have not used them though it has been in the news that the last update to them “bricked” quite a few.

Overall, processor speed now helps with longevity over time as more apps get developed may require more processor speed than is provided with the i3 and below.


32 posted on 12/23/2013 1:09:42 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: oh8eleven; savedbygrace

Another software recommendation is Advanced System Care. I have kept old XP computers restored and running for years with their free version.


33 posted on 12/23/2013 1:11:16 PM PST by Truth29
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To: CMailBag

See post 4


34 posted on 12/23/2013 1:11:39 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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To: knittnmom
What’s the noise level on that? (My current pc sounds like a jet engine taking off.) I’ve been thinking about a Mac Pro, but want something quiet! Thanks.

No noise level at all. Completely silent.

35 posted on 12/23/2013 1:14:14 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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To: knittnmom

if your noisy machine is a laptop, it’s quite likely that the heat exchanger is plugged w/ lint/dust. very easy to fix. typically a screwdriver, small brush, vacuum cleaner. don’t blow the dust...you’ll only push it into places you can’t reach. youtube &/or manufacturer’s site will show you how to do it. if yours is a desktop, could easily be similar situation for CPU heat-sink/fan &/or powersupply fan. all easy to fix. dust is not your friend, it prevents cooling. hot processor throttles itself down in speed = slower computer.


36 posted on 12/23/2013 1:15:04 PM PST by mreerm
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To: savedbygrace

Or if you like your laptop, consider replacing the screen.


37 posted on 12/23/2013 1:15:41 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Revolting cat!
Toshiba is one of the best. Like ASUS. And Lenovo.

Just bought a Lenovo. Best selling point was it came with Windows 7 (also Windows 8 if I want to downgrade).

38 posted on 12/23/2013 1:16:00 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: savedbygrace

PC’s are so 2000’s.


39 posted on 12/23/2013 1:16:48 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Revolting cat!

My Toshiba Satellite is about 8 years old and still runs almost like it was new. The only thing I’ve done with it was up its RAM to 4Gb.


40 posted on 12/23/2013 1:29:51 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Red in Blue PA
well.. they sold/were convicted (for illegal sale) prop. milling machine
technology to the Soviets in the early 80s for their nuclear submarines.

41 posted on 12/23/2013 1:31:49 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: savedbygrace
I wouldn't recommend you to buy Win8 until you have worked with it for a couple of days and verified that all your software is supported. I'm finding that backward compatibility is not that great. I have Win8 on one laptop and Win8.1 on another (in a business setting) and I am disappointed. It does power up and down faster, but that's hardly important if you cannot work in it just as fast as in Win7. IMO, Win7 is the best release of Windows, and if you want a reliable system that works you should stick to it. On the other hand, if you want to jump into a completely different GUI paradigm, at your own risk, then you want Win8. If you want Win8 + 3rd party Win7 menu utilities, just get the real thing (Win7.)

I would buy a cheap laptop and install the version of Windows that I want. Win7 is still sold at many places, like TigerDirect. I wouldn't be focusing on hardware because it wears down and breaks eventually anyhow. Do not buy an overly expensive laptop - it's a mobile thing, and it can be damaged easily. Buy a disposable one, as long as you are happy with its performance and like the keyboard. Some latest Lenovo laptops have an awful touchpad, for example (there are no mouse buttons; the entire touchpad tilts. This is amazingly bad.)

42 posted on 12/23/2013 1:35:45 PM PST by Greysard
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To: savedbygrace

If you do keep it then google for a new display for Asus model number XXXX(whatever it is)

You might be surprised as it may not cost as much if you are not buying directly from Asus. Then find someone to install it as it is not usually hard if you know how. You very well might even find a How To video on Youtube.


43 posted on 12/23/2013 1:38:52 PM PST by Revel
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To: Truth29
Advanced System Care
Have used it for years. Preferred v3.x, but have used v6 (7?) for many months now.
44 posted on 12/23/2013 1:46:03 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: savedbygrace

Thanks for raising the question!


45 posted on 12/23/2013 1:47:39 PM PST by frog in a pot ("To each according to his need..." -from a guy who never had a real job and couldn't feed his family)
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To: savedbygrace

many companies sell lease returns at good price. Most of these come with win 7 on them. I have been told Wall-Mary on line sells used laptops. with a one year warranty at addition charge is still a great deal.


46 posted on 12/23/2013 1:48:22 PM PST by ThomasThomas (I wear gloves when I wash my hands,)
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To: savedbygrace

I want to buy a new PC too.

My budget is about $7.21

:p


47 posted on 12/23/2013 1:49:23 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: savedbygrace
I was about to do a clean wipe of my HDD on my desktop, which was taking several minutes to shut down, and had audio glitches/stuttering, random BSODs, etc. I even bought a Blu-ray burner to use for backing up stuff before doing the clean sweep. Before doing so, I installed Malwarebytes malware removal software. It seeks out all sorts of crap that secretly installs along with other programs. Stuff like search toolbars you don't need. It even saw my CD ripping software as a potential threat. Once I nuked all that crap, my PC (Windows 7) is running perfectly and I no longer feel the need to reformat. Shuts down in about 10 seconds and no more BSODs.

As to the dead pixels on your screen: my wife dropped her laptop and ruined the screen. I ordered her another screen and installed it within days for less than $100. And I'm no computer whiz. There were Youtube videos that showed exactly how to replace the screen. I eventually replaced her keyboard as well. Just thought I'd throw that out there as an alternative to buying a new one.

48 posted on 12/23/2013 1:49:56 PM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: savedbygrace

Toshiba is fine as long as you don’t like batteries....


49 posted on 12/23/2013 1:50:12 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: savedbygrace

Buy a biz class Dell Latitude E5x30, E5x40, E6x30, or E6x40 refurb with Windows 7 x64 Pro from:

http://www.dell.com/us/dfb/p/latitude-laptops.aspx?c=us&cs=28&l=en&s=dfb&~ck=mn

If you go the E5xxx route, spend the extra $70.00 for the extra two years of warranty (E6xxx already has built-in 3-yr warranty, but they are more expensive.)

4-6 GB RAM

320 or bigger 7400 rpm HD (avoid SSD)

intel i5 processor (or i7 if real horsepower needed, which most people don’t usually need)

webcam if you need one and can find a refurb with it.

Avoid Windows 8.x like the plague. It’s a gawdawful OS and is basically a dead operating system at this point for all practical purposes given its collapsing adoption rate in comparison with Windows 7.


50 posted on 12/23/2013 1:51:34 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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