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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Does this ring true?

Guess this guy has never met Dalrock.

This phenomenon is by now quite far advanced, and has been dissected expertly by "Dalrock", and many others.

In brief, struggling in your teens and early twenties to get somewhere, and then competing to be the best, only makes sense if you get the girl at the end. Since getting a (real) wife is proving quite difficult these days, and since if you do get one there's a very significant chance that after baby #2 she gets a restraining order and cashes out, leaving you with 18-25 years of support for children who are taught to hate you, a lot of guys are electing not to play.

3 posted on 01/04/2014 5:19:15 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Jim Noble
I'd put the problem way back to when high school changed. Guys and gals used to take shop and other practical classes which prepared them for life and for productivity. Except for the occasional nerd or real scholar, the only ones who went to college had a purpose attached to the experience, and we did it without debt. We had skills before leaving HS.

People who stayed in the hometown got jobs, started businesses, often settling down with the HS sweetheart. They kept the community strong and raised families. There was a sense of decency and inclusion, and problems were usually solved from the sidelines by concerned adults and reasonable peers.

We felt secure in our futures. Ike warned us and our parents about the military-industrial complex, but the threat seemed far away.

It seems as if the globalist adventure in VietNam is what irreversibly changed all of that.

Just had my 50th HS reunion last summer. It's our culture's version of a pilgimmage to Mecca once in a lifetime. You know what? Those who settled into that promised life of 50 years ago have had good lives.

How could things have irreversibly and horribly changed over the last 50 years? I would call our class, the HS Class of 1963, the last of the post baby boomers, as perhaps the last group to fully live the American Dream.

5 posted on 01/04/2014 5:32:40 AM PST by grania
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To: Jim Noble

The only winning move is not to play


13 posted on 01/04/2014 6:09:29 AM PST by NonValueAdded (It's not the penalty, it's the lack of coverage on 1 Jan. Think about it.)
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To: Jim Noble

I agree.....I have 2 grandsons, both good looking young men in their 20s....but that is where it ends, hopelessly lost in the real world....I suggested to one, when he finished high school...go and join the marines, reply: grandpa, they make me cut my hair...he, at 27, still lives in mom’s basement...the second grandson, 21, stills lives at mom’s home, can’t hold a job, watches porn on the computer...both are in single family situations....

Women have been taught over last 30 years, they can do it all, and there is need for men....well, they can’t.


15 posted on 01/04/2014 6:20:22 AM PST by B212
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