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Obamacare is toast
Flopping Aces ^ | 01-04-14 | DrJohn

Posted on 01/04/2014 11:07:23 AM PST by Starman417

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1 posted on 01/04/2014 11:07:23 AM PST by Starman417
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To: Starman417

How is it dead when all Republicans say there is no way to stop it?


2 posted on 01/04/2014 11:12:31 AM PST by nickcarraway
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“..There was a rush of enrollment right before the individual mandate kicked in, and ultimately over three years the program covered about two-thirds of the state’s uninsured citizens, leaving Massachusetts with a 3% uninsured rate, the lowest in the nation.”

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The FACT that is always left out by the left about the Mass Socialized medicine is that THE FED (U.S. taxpayer) PAYS 50% OF THE COST of their program. Check it out. Without the FED (U.S. taxpayers) subsidizing Mass, it would have been a total failure. Even Romney had to be squeezed to get an admission about this but it is fact.


3 posted on 01/04/2014 11:14:33 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Starman417

It is easy to demonstrate Obmamacare sucks, but I am not sure the case is made that it is “toast”.


4 posted on 01/04/2014 11:16:30 AM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: nickcarraway
Republicans, except for constitutional conservatives, DO NOT want to stop it. Their cronies in the insurance companies have manipulated a scheme with which they get high premiums from entrapped consumers plus government subsidies.

Unless enough people opt out and are allowed to choose their own treatments, it's health care as we knew it that's gone. Obamacare is all about funding public health concerns.

5 posted on 01/04/2014 11:19:13 AM PST by grania
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To: Starman417

If ObamaCare is “settled law”, why the hell are Barry and his commie ‘RATS illegally making changes to “settled law” on a daily basis? Communism sucks. Our current immigration laws are also “settled law” and the communists refuse to enforce them. Lawlessness is rampant in the country. If illegal aliens can come here and completely disregard our laws, I believe it’s time for Americans to start blowing off our laws too. I am already going through this process. Laws no longer mean anything to me. We’re a “have it your way” country now.


6 posted on 01/04/2014 11:20:33 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (The Truth Is Out There. Just don't let anyone know that you're looking for it.)
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Good article demonstrating the details of the disaster that is Obamacare. However, it totally misses the point that the disaster is a great prelude to a demand for full socialist government health care with the threat that if we don't agree, there will be no health care for the average citizen at all. It was destroyed by Obamacare. The strategy is that the chaos and cost will be so great that we will agree with Obama because he will have burned all the bridges back to private health care.
7 posted on 01/04/2014 11:20:54 AM PST by Truth29
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The LIBs/DIMs are real basta**s, aren’t they.


8 posted on 01/04/2014 11:22:55 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: EagleUSA
Without the FED (U.S. taxpayers) subsidizing Mass, it would have been a total failure.

I recall in one of the pre-2012 election interviews, Chris Wallace (FoxNews) was interviewing Romney. Wallace asked Romney about the Massachusetts healthcare implementation.

Romney responded that it was a rousing success.

Wallace pointed out that the reason it was a success was that the FED paid for the initial costs of implementation.

Romney had no counter response.


9 posted on 01/04/2014 11:23:41 AM PST by TomGuy
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We must be patient. The toasting will come with the autumn leaves and the arrival of the 80 million employer based cancellations.

"Here's 50 bucks a month. Go buy your coverage on healthcare.gov."

10 posted on 01/04/2014 11:25:28 AM PST by ToastedHead
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Because there is no effective opposition party. Boehner and Mitchell are rolling over for whatever the Dems send their way.
11 posted on 01/04/2014 11:26:32 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Truth29

“The strategy is that the chaos and cost will be so great that we will agree with Obama because he will have burned all the bridges back to private health care.”

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Our private system is in trouble for the short term. And people get the government they deserve. The bridges back to private care will always be there, albeit no used for a while. It is really up to the American citizen. If they want to tolerate this outright oppressive, lawless communism, then that is what they will have — if not, things can change REAL FAST. It is the citizens’ call.

The same scenario can apply to the government as well. Many of the electorate have no idea how much power they actually have over all of this — and they are not using it. Yet.

I still feel it appropriate to again thank John Roberts for standing up for the “law”....Thank You John.


12 posted on 01/04/2014 11:31:50 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Starman417

It won’t die until repealed completely. Regardless of how bad it fails as long as there’s assholes in congress and the white house, the taxpayer will foot the bill.


13 posted on 01/04/2014 11:31:57 AM PST by maddog55
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To: Starman417
ObamaCare is toast??? Don't bet on it. IF liberals/leftists acknowledge any failures it is always to get more money and government programs.
14 posted on 01/04/2014 11:34:08 AM PST by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: hal ogen
"The LIBs/DIMs are real basta**s, aren’t they."

Indeed they are, and more. Bill Ayers', Obama's mentor, was once quoted as having said that sending 25 million Americans to camps for reeducation or termination was fine if they stood in the way of the revolution.

15 posted on 01/04/2014 11:44:51 AM PST by Truth29
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I agree that Obamacare is toast. It does not and cannot work. Therein lies the rub. It was purposefully designed NOT to work. What to do about the millions who have lost their coverage and the millions who have had their coverage costs skyrocket?

There is only one solution the progressives will put forth and it was the goal from the beginning... universal enrollment in Medicaid. Why do the majority of online enrollments end up in Medicaid (85% in some states)?

It is where they wanted everyone to end up from the beginning. Everyone is now “insured” and the government calls all the shots since it is a government program. It is a progressive’s dream come true.


16 posted on 01/04/2014 11:46:52 AM PST by FerociousRabbit
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Obamacare, toast?

Heck, I’m still waiting for all the predictions of Clinton, Sandy Burger, Gore, Susan Rice, Hillary, Eric Holder, liberalism and the whole Demoncrat Party to be toast.


17 posted on 01/04/2014 11:48:50 AM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: workerbee; a fool in paradise

Well dude, Kim Jong Un’s uncle is toast. 120 hungry dogs can testify to that!


18 posted on 01/04/2014 11:53:44 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: nickcarraway
How is it dead when all Republicans say there is no way to stop it?

Get new republicans.

19 posted on 01/04/2014 11:55:29 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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CNN’s Jonathan Gruber states, ‘’It’s much too early to declare the program either a failure or a success.’’

But does anyone doubt that if ObamaCare, during its three-month-plus inauguration/registration period, had shown even the slightest evidence of being a success such positive evidence would have been trumpeted by the MSM from every liberal news outlet in the country, with Jonathan Gruber’s CNN leading the cheers?

Instead, the best thing CNN can report now about ObamaCare is that it’s too soon to declare it a failure, which in itself proves that it IS a failure.


20 posted on 01/04/2014 11:59:46 AM PST by Bluestocking
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