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To: SkyPilot

A lot of prophecy cannot be determined until after it has passed and looking back it can be recognized.

Looking forward, it often doesn’t make much sense.

It happened with Jesus when He came.


20 posted on 01/21/2014 12:43:10 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: metmom
That is true. However, the preterist stance that Revelation was mostly fulfilled in 70 AD does not stand up to scrutiny, i.e. Preterism holds that Ancient Israel finds its continuation or fulfillment in the Christian church at the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70."

There are just too many holes in that argument. Chapter 1 makes clear that is prophecy, and the rest of the book makes it clear that the bowls, seals, and judgments are worldwide events. They either have already happened, or they didn't happen yet. 1/3rd of all fresh water over the whole earth was not destroyed in 70 AD. The asteroid Wormwood did not fall to the earth in 70 AD. Hail, fire, and blood did not destroy 1/3rd of all trees and grass throughout the world in 70 AD.

Moreover, God makes clear to the Church in Philadelphia that they are spared from the wrath to come in Chapter 3:10. Since the wrath of God is to punish nonbelievers and those who sin against Him, what purpose would God have for inflicting wrath on believers? Jewish tradition also says that the bridegroom goes away to prepare a place for his bride (i.e. build a house) and returns for her at a time she does not know. Christ used this very same parallel with His bride - the Church. The Church is also never mentioned in the entire book of Revelation. There are believers who come to Christ during those terrible last days, but not the Church, because it is taken out and spared.

In any case, I know of your great faith. You and I know that Christ has us in the palm of His hand, and nothing can separates us from Him.

24 posted on 01/21/2014 10:39:13 AM PST by SkyPilot
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