Posted on 01/26/2014 12:54:41 PM PST by Nachum
People bad mouth the Death Panels without giving them credit for how valuable they’ll be to SocSec and Medicare budgets.
When Julia and Pajama Boy get restless over granny’s premature demise, the regime will send out some Groupons for student loan relief.
Does NHS also ban Queen Elizabeth II from cataract surgery?
All “government-provided” health care schemes eventually become rationed care. And not only rationed, that which is available is much lower quality, and with long waiting lists to even get into the presence of a supposed specialist in the treatment of the disorder, also allows the condition to get much worse before treatment begins.
And the supposed specialist may not even have that much expertise in diagnosing or treating the disorder. What treatment is available, fails to address either the symptoms that present, or newer, more effective means of treatment.
The older treatments will necessarily have to be relied upon, because there is no capability or interest in developing new, cutting-edge technologies. Without available funding to support research and experimental study, the new technologies will never be discovered or explored for the benefit of community health.
We are all going to die sometime. In the words of that great sage of the House of Representatives, Alan Grayson, D-Florida, “Don’t get sick. And if you do, die quickly.”
Pretty much sums up what the underlying philosophy of Obamacare includes.
My MIL will be 100 next May. She arises each morning and makes her own bed, then picks which of her own homespun yarn she will knit the next sweater or cap with. I do fix her breakfast and lunch, but she always walks down the two flights of stairs to take in some Netflix movies. She reads books by the bushel basket and follows the stock market on TV.
She became ill with an UTI last summer and I had to throw a screaming fit to get the ER docs to treat her. They thought her “fuzziness” was the usual. I insisted they treat her now, or else when the other hospital put her back on her feet I’d bring her back and let her beat them all at chess.
Some folks just have good genes. The one-size-fits-all practice of medicine makes me very angry, but it is already in the U.S.
Now don’t you think she can afford her own doctors? Of course. And don’t you think many wealthy people could afford their own surgery if they needed it? Of course. Cost is not an issue for those who can afford it.
But for any nationalized care, be it NHS or Obamacare, cost IS a factor. And where the government’s money is concerned, shouldn’t cost be a factor? Of course. We would want the government to spend OUR money wisely. And starting from the absurd, e.g., spending a million bucks to extend a life by one day (which no reasonable person would do), then a lone has to be drawn somewhere. And for a governmental system the person making the decision is going to be a bean counting pencil pusher. I think the same is true in private insurance. Someone will eventually be deciding if care is appropriate based on a cost-benefit analysis. No system involving pooled funds can survive long by doing everything for everyone.
Patriarch Pavle of Serbia: Patriarch from age 76 to age 95.
Winston Churchill: Prime Minister from age 66 to age 71, and again from age 77 to age 81.
Ronald Reagan: President from age 70 to age 78.
Any questions?
Physicians who take government money of any kind will not be able to take cash. If they do they'll be fined for their first offense and charged for later offenses.
Let me explain a bit more on private and national medical insurance there: They have private hospitals and public hospitals. If you have a private policy, you go to the private hospital and have a private room and care. If you are public health insurance, you go to the different hospital with wards of people, no private rooms.
Now, wife had a bleeding ulcer and had to be in hospital a number of days. She was in a ward, her chosen public healthcare. She said she couldn't sleep because the others in the ward were noisy. She couldn't get a nurse until after a long wait. As soon as she got out of hospital, she told son to get private healthcare again.
She was only a liberal in talking but not in doing. Did they send my grandson to a public school with regular kids? No way - it is a private school for smart kids, not even a regular private school. Also, private tennis lessons, private piano lessons, private flute lessons, private swimming lessons.
I'm all for private, but don't pretend to be a liberal and live like the common folks when you don't do it.
An important element of this is not that the cancer treatments wouldn’t work, but that the NHS actively *wants* the elderly to die. That is, if someone invented a cheap cancer cure tomorrow, the NHS would try to *prevent* seniors from getting it.
Remember that former Gov. Richard D. Lamm of Colorado once said that “Elderly people who are terminally ill have a “duty to die and get out of the way” instead of trying to prolong their lives by artificial means.”
However, this is a half truth. They don’t really care that they are terminally ill. They want them to die anyway, because they see the elderly as useless parasites on society.
Past retirement age, they see the elderly as consuming their (earned) pension, getting free or low cost health care, hoarding their (earned) savings instead of giving them to government, etc. As useless parasites.
So remember that this is the mindset of such people when debating health care.
One more note about English private insurance:
Son’s mother-in-law had a private policy so when she got cancer, she was immediately admitted and got fast care and a private room. She eventually died but, in my opinion, she would not have lived that long had she not had private insurance.
” I’m all for private, but don’t pretend to be a liberal and live like the common folks when you don’t do it. “
Friends of one of my daughters are exactly like that.
They talk the talk but don’t walk the walk.
Incredible hypocrisy.
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See US chart:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_life_expectancy
Cancer treatment, regardless of age, should be decided by the patient and his/her family. As a consideration, some chemotherapy and radiation treatments are more stressful and debilitating than the illness. For elderly patients, Medicare does not cover all the drugs and services which are part of cancer care, plus,the stress of a cancer diagnosis, prognosis often limits research on choices and options.
If you’re elderly, have your vitamin d levels tested. If you’re low, supplement with d3 and keep getting retested.
Find a doc willing and able to do these things.
Yes, that was then and hyper Socialists didn’t rule us.
Doc tested my D3 level over a year ago and it was very low so have to take supplement he recommended every day.
Could you explain more about the vitamin D? Thanks
Make sure it’s a d3 supplement and not a d2 supplement.
Some docs write scrips for the d2 variety. d2 is converted, slowly and inefficiently, by mammals to d3.
d3 is the right sort all along.
Low vitamin d levels (specifically the d3 kind) have been linked with cancer, heart issues and issues with bone density. You can’t just start popping pills though, you need to have your levels tested and then supplement if they’re low. And subsequently be restested.
What dose works for one person might be a drop in the bucket for another. What’s sufficient for one might be way way way too much for someone else. It’s a very individual thing.
Also ask your doc about k2. Have to be careful supplementing with that one if you’re a heart patient or any kind of blood thinning drugs. but k2 and d3 work synergistically. So ask when you ask about the d3.
And if you subsequently get a scrip for ‘vitamin d’, make sure it’s the d3 form. the d2 form is plant vitamin d and is poorly and inefficiently converted in mammals to vitamin d3.
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