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No One is Born Gay (or Straight): Here Are 5 Reasons Why
Social In Qeery ^ | 03/2013 | Jane Ward

Posted on 02/15/2014 6:22:16 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: MrChips
Perhaps. But, are you not confusing action (which is a choice) with attraction (which, even if not in-born,is hardly a choice)?

Virtually every case of women I’ve met who called themselves ‘lesbian’ had the same story to tell… their mother and father were split and the mother decided to shack up with another guy who sexually abused her at around the age of 12. It seems to me that the case isn’t one of ‘attraction’ for the same sex but ‘repulsion’ of the opposite sex (which then defaults to attraction for the same sex since we are hardwired to want love). For males, it seems to be more complex but in many cases of men who eventually called themselves ‘gay’, it seems that a stunning number of them were quite voyeuristic at young ages and ended up in the sack as part of experimental threesomes… it’s a much smaller leap to a same sex relationship when a threesome is already putting one part way down that path. For both the male and female cases, it has far less to do with ‘attraction’ than it has to do with confusion about their sexuality at a young age and heading down the wrong road…. and once down a particular road, they assume that they are hardwired to be on that road. No scientific study here…. just observations.

21 posted on 02/15/2014 7:25:23 PM PST by hecticskeptic
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To: SeekAndFind

KHAFOK!

Keep Homosexuals Away From Our Kids!

22 posted on 02/15/2014 7:26:04 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Well, even the Vatican has acknowledged the condition, not just the behavior. And, they make the same argument you do. Do not sin. But, I have heard gay people make a very logical argument in saying that the Vatican wants you to be who you are, and values who you are, but you just can’t act upon who you are (as a straight person can). It does seem a little hypocritical.

Now, it is true that a great deal of gay sexual activity is promiscuous, but not all, although I suppose more than is true of heterosexual activity. As for that, however, all you have to do is to watch TV for a few hours to realize the prevalence of promiscuous behavior, straight or gay, so that is no help.

But, I do have a lifelong friend who disappeared from my life after high school for several years. It troubled me greatly when I heard that he was living with a man in CA, and that they had adopted a child. Well, some years later, now, I look at their lives, successful and stable and loving, having given an abandoned child a good home (and he has turned out just fine), and I find it very difficult to be critical. I just take the attitude that God will judge us all. It’s not up to me.


23 posted on 02/15/2014 7:27:30 PM PST by MrChips (Ad sapientiam pertinet aeternarum rerum cognitio intellectualis - St. Augustine)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have to disagree.

To say that they are not born as homosexuals does away with the doctrine of original sin. We are all born sinful and that sin manifests itself in different ways in each of us.


24 posted on 02/15/2014 7:28:11 PM PST by Gamecock (Grace is not opposed to human activity. It's opposed to human merit. MSH)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve always been surprised that gay activists would want there to be a “gay gene”. If there were such a thing, it could be screened for early in a pregnancy. And while most people would say in public that they’d never abort their gay baby, in private, where the paperwork is signed and the insurance coverage is verified, they most certainly would. If there were really were a gay gene, it would be purged from the human genome in a generation.


25 posted on 02/15/2014 7:29:43 PM PST by Redcloak (Was that the primary buffer panel?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Whenever the “homosexuality isn’t a choice!” argument rears it’s head, I just respond with “Ann Heche” and watch the meltdown.


26 posted on 02/15/2014 7:30:00 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: bboop

we are traditionalists

and while there is much sharing of CHORES my g kids know that i am the one who makes the pizzas and my wife is the one who burns the toast

Just kidding.

My mom explained it early and well into my fatherhood. The first time she heard me say ah bah goo wah to our first born.

You speak and act around your children the same way you were raised.


27 posted on 02/15/2014 7:33:34 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: SeekAndFind

What really troubles me is that the lie that sexual orientation is hardwired has hooked so many people into the lifestyle, with little chance of escaping (and actually making it illegal to escape in some cases.....hmmmm, what does that sound like?).

This is purely a position of politics, not of biology, and those who have perpetuated the myth will be held accountable for it. Meanwhile, the victims face a short unhappy life of being sexual meat for their abductors.


28 posted on 02/15/2014 7:40:30 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: SeekAndFind
If Cynthia Nixon is a lesbian, how come she married Jonah Hill?


29 posted on 02/15/2014 7:41:12 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: ClearCase_guy
A man looks at a beautiful woman, and perhaps he sins. Perhaps he cannot help it. He is attracted to her. What can one do?

Don't look twice is a good rule, but one i have too often broken (and trying to look straight on web pages which increasingly place seductive ads on the sides, and on below can be very trying), but we do have a choice.

Looking and admiring God-given beauty (they did not just evolve!) - and glorify God for it - (yet it is the heart that matters most) is not a sin, but to look in order to lust, to obtain craved sexual satisfaction - which usually is that second time - is sin.

Yet even looking at your wife something to be valued for her anatomy or to simply a body to gratify sexual desire is sin.

Man is also a sexual creature in general, and it is not abnormal that a heterosexual man could be somewhat aroused by any visual sexual activity, esp. insomuch as something resembles the female body. Thus those studies alleging heterosexuals are homo due to having them watch homoporn...

But if a man is attracted to men over women, then that is a disorder, and any sexual lust or relationship is sin, as it is never sanctified by marriage.

30 posted on 02/15/2014 7:47:38 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: bigheadfred

We are very traditional too. Works so well. We call it ‘division of labor.’ (duh)


31 posted on 02/15/2014 7:49:18 PM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: bigheadfred; metmom; Elsie; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter
and while there is much sharing of CHORES my g kids know that i am the one who makes the pizzas and my wife is the one who burns the toast

And men and women go together like butter and toast. We are the toast, and sometimes it is burnt, and women are the butter, but sometimes it is frigid.

32 posted on 02/15/2014 7:50:38 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: SeekAndFind

apparently this writer has NEVER watched a little boy make a gun or a car or a tank out of ANY toy given to him. And like wise that little girls make babies out of ANY toy given to them


33 posted on 02/15/2014 7:51:22 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Gamecock
We are all born sinful and that sin manifests itself in different ways in each of us.

Speak for yourself.

34 posted on 02/15/2014 7:54:34 PM PST by Misterioso (Narcissism is the belief in nothing, masquerading as tolerance of everything. - Ayn Rand)
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35 posted on 02/15/2014 7:59:29 PM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: SeekAndFind

All those who end up in hell choose it. How you live your life is a choice and choosing to live righteously requires denying the flesh, and sometimes that can be so difficult, unless God is your guide and present help, it would be impossible for you to succeed.

Those who say they have a natural proclivity toward homosexuality, if they are to be saved, must fight against their addiction the same as one addicted to sexual promiscuity with the opposite sex, or the one addicted to porn and self sex, adultery, polygamy or bestiality... all are perversions of the natural order of man and wife. But all start by being introduced to “it”.

And the fondling of “it” develops into a lifestyle habit and as with all habits, they are damnable. Those who think little of hell or even of heaven are those who persist in holding onto their habits and draw comfort by enticing others to adopt those same habits. As God’s word says, “sin is pleasurable for a season, but in the end it brings forth death”. Those who promote their sexually deviant habits promote death and hell. God is patient with us all, but when society as a whole turns against God, He will turn society over to their own chosen destruction... America has little time left before the Holy carp hits the fan.


36 posted on 02/15/2014 8:03:01 PM PST by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: Misterioso

Glad to hear you don’t have need for a savior.


37 posted on 02/15/2014 8:04:04 PM PST by Gamecock (Grace is not opposed to human activity. It's opposed to human merit. MSH)
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To: Nifster

One of my son’s first five words was *vroom*.

Our oldest is a girl. He came next, so I had some basis for comparison. I was playing with him showing him a toy car that was actually hers and she ignored completely. I drove it on the floor and said *vroom* and his eyes just lit right up and he immediately repeated it and grabbed for the car.

When he did that, I knew that EVERYTHING those brain dead liberals and psychologists said about boys and girls not being different except what they are taught, was outright hogwash.


38 posted on 02/15/2014 8:14:09 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: Misterioso; Gamecock

You, Mary, and Jesus, eh?


39 posted on 02/15/2014 8:15:02 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: daniel1212

frigidty only occurs when there is a lack of global warming


40 posted on 02/15/2014 8:20:33 PM PST by bigheadfred
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