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No One is Born Gay (or Straight): Here Are 5 Reasons Why
Social In Qeery ^ | 03/2013 | Jane Ward

Posted on 02/15/2014 6:22:16 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 02/15/2014 6:22:17 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

all i know is my four year old grandson told my wife she had to wear makeup or people would think she was a man


2 posted on 02/15/2014 6:30:20 PM PST by bigheadfred
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“Grandson ..she?” Are you being facetious?


3 posted on 02/15/2014 6:34:12 PM PST by Fungi
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The grandson was telling his grandmama that she (the grandma) needs markup. Lol


4 posted on 02/15/2014 6:36:23 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Fungi

I read that as him saying his wife is a “she”.


5 posted on 02/15/2014 6:36:45 PM PST by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I didn't agree with Gore Vidal on very much, but he was very clear on this: No one can BE homosexual. Also, no one can BE heterosexual. These are adjectives which describe your behavior.

If a man has sex with a man, he is engaging in homosexual acts, and he is acting in a homosexual manner. Men in prison do this. Men in San Francisco do this.

Most men get married and engage in heterosexual acts with their wife: they act in a heterosexual manner. Rock Hudson was capable of this, but he preferred not to.

And this leads to the notion that people can change their lives, we have free will, we can make choices, and we can repent and reform, if we wish.

But the activists don't want to hear about it.

6 posted on 02/15/2014 6:38:31 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Puppage; Fungi

point of fact i managed to love my wife into the belief she was more than fine to me just the way she is

but my wife does use some makeup to cover the five o clock shadow other than that...


7 posted on 02/15/2014 6:41:16 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Fungi

read it again but slower this time and think.


8 posted on 02/15/2014 6:44:10 PM PST by fish hawk (no tyrant can remain in power without the consent and cooperation of his victims.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

RE: Gore Vidal

He was openly gay when it was not popular to out oneself in the 1960’s.

In fact, his NPR protagonist, William F. Buckley Jr. called him Queer on TV (and got away with it without any of the “outrage” and demand for him to be canned that we would expect today ).

Anyway, In the September 1969 edition of Esquire, for example, Gore Vidal wrote:

“We are all bisexual to begin with. That is a fact of our condition. And we are all responsive to sexual stimuli from our own as well as from the opposite sex. Certain societies at certain times, usually in the interest of maintaining the baby supply, have discouraged homosexuality. Other societies, particularly militaristic ones, have exalted it. But regardless of tribal taboos, homosexuality is a constant fact of the human condition and it is not a sickness, not a sin, not a crime ... despite the best efforts of our puritan tribe to make it all three. Homosexuality is as natural as heterosexuality. Notice I use the word ‘natural,’ not normal”


9 posted on 02/15/2014 6:45:35 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: ClearCase_guy

Men are pigs, we have the ability to sexualize anything. God told us to leave other men and the livestock alone.

I’m not sure what’s going on with the women.


10 posted on 02/15/2014 6:46:51 PM PST by dangerdoc (I don't think you should be forced to make the same decision I did even if I know I'm right.)
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To: SeekAndFind
“Actually, there is no such thing as a homosexual person, any more than there is such a thing as a heterosexual person. The words are adjectives describing sexual acts, not people. The sexual acts are entirely normal; if they were not, no one would perform them.” ― Gore Vidal, Sexually Speaking: Collected Sex Writings
11 posted on 02/15/2014 6:48:36 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: SeekAndFind

thanks for stating something a lot of us have known for years. I just got off of Face Book and a hour long argument with a youg girl about homosexuality and Christianity. Interesting but I got tired of pointing out that almost every statement she made about it and what the Bible does and does not say about it was immature and false. The same old Cliché, Jesus didn’t say a word about Homosexuality in the Bible. This is bogus and untrue. No, not in your “red Letters” Bible but through the Holy Spirit, the Old Testament and the apostles, he said plenty .


12 posted on 02/15/2014 6:50:27 PM PST by fish hawk (no tyrant can remain in power without the consent and cooperation of his victims.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

MMmm. Perhaps. But, are you not confusing action (which is a choice) with attraction (which, even if not in-born,is hardly a choice)?


13 posted on 02/15/2014 6:50:56 PM PST by MrChips (Ad sapientiam pertinet aeternarum rerum cognitio intellectualis - St. Augustine)
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To: SeekAndFind

I suppose incest falls into the same category. Watch for the push on that next. Or pedophilia.


14 posted on 02/15/2014 6:56:47 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: MrChips
Well, there is the notion that a man commits adultery when he looks upon a woman with lust in his heart. We have a sin nature, and we sin constantly. It cannot be avoided.

A man looks at a beautiful woman, and perhaps he sins. Perhaps he cannot help it. He is attracted to her. What can one do?

Now, some men look upon other men in the same way. There is an attraction. Again, it is a sin. What can one do?

But where we err is when we walk across the bar and strike up the conversation with the person whom we know we should not have an attraction for. And then we go back to the hotel with them. This is completely in the realm of choice.

People should choose wisely.

15 posted on 02/15/2014 6:58:37 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: bigheadfred

Haha, and our son crawled all over the stuffed animals and dollies to get to the trucks. One of my first aha moments!!


16 posted on 02/15/2014 7:08:03 PM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: dangerdoc

Dangerdoc, you are right. Women are not so, I believe, because we are biologically the childbearers.

When we were first married and looking for a place to rent, I pulled up to a house, opened the car door, and a cat jumped in, took a brief look at the Border Collie in the back seat, and settled in as if he just belonged there. He was a stray, so I took him to the vet. The vet told me the males were like that - friendly and easy-going, but the females were not at all. They were more skittish, due to their strong instinct to protect their young. I think it works like this across the board.


17 posted on 02/15/2014 7:12:21 PM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: SeekAndFind

If “being homosexual” is NOT a choice but inborn, then explain bi-sexual ..... Is THAT a choice?


18 posted on 02/15/2014 7:15:59 PM PST by Optimist
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To: ClearCase_guy
No matter what Vidal said, it is not normal, even for a man to even desire men over women. Same gender sexual relations are sin whether without gay or not, and cannot be justified even if there is a genetic predisposition (and DNA can change thru generations due to experience). But we all have sinned to varying degrees, and there is room at the cross for all who will repent and believe on the Son sent by the Father to be the Savior of the world. Thank God.
19 posted on 02/15/2014 7:20:32 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: SeekAndFind
So alot of people are born a particular way..people are born with out arms or legs or blind. ...the question is then is it a birth defect?.....if so its valid to try and correct...but the current position seem is not valid to correct...to the point that with so called trans gender..the birth defect is the gender they were born ...so it valid to try to correct body to mind..but not valid to correct mind to body
20 posted on 02/15/2014 7:20:49 PM PST by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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