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No One is Born Gay (or Straight): Here Are 5 Reasons Why
Social In Qeery ^ | 03/2013 | Jane Ward

Posted on 02/15/2014 6:22:16 PM PST by SeekAndFind

This post has been elaborated here.

1. Just because an argument is politically strategic, does not make it true: A couple of years ago, the Human Rights Campaign, arguably the country’s most powerful lesbian and gay organization, responded to politician Herman Cain’s assertion that being gay is a choice. They asked their members to “Tell Herman Cain to get with the times! Being gay is not a choice!” They reasoned that Cain’s remarks were “dangerous.” Why? “Because implying that homosexuality is a choice gives unwarranted credence to roundly disproven practices such as ‘conversion’ or ‘reparative’ therapy. The risks associated with attempts to consciously change one’s sexual orientation include depression, anxiety and self-destructive behavior.”

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Cynthia Nixon (right) and wife Christine Marinoni (left)

The problem with such statements is that they infuse biological accounts with an obligatory and nearly coercive force, suggesting that anyone who describes homosexual desire as a choice or social construction is playing into the hands of the enemy. In 2012, the extent to which gay biology had become a moral and political imperative came into full view when actress Cynthia Nixon, after commenting to a New York Times Magazine reporter that she “chose” to pursue a lesbian relationship after many years as a content heterosexual, was met with outrage by lesbian and gay activists. As one horrified gay male writer proclaimed, “[Nixon] just fell into a right-wing trap, willingly. …Every religious right hatemonger is now going to quote this woman every single time they want to deny us our civil rights.” Under considerable pressure from lesbian and gay advocacy groups, Nixon recanted her statement a few weeks later, stating instead that she must have been born with bisexual potential.

Yes, it’s true that straight people are more tolerant when they believe that lesbian and gay people have no choice in the matter. If homosexual desire is hardwired, then we cannot change it; we must live with this condition, and it would be unfair to judge us for that which we cannot change. By implication, if we could choose, of course we would choose to be heterosexual. Any sane person would choose heterosexuality (not so. see here). And when homophobic people come to the opposite conclusion—that homosexual desire is something we can choose—then they want to help us make the right choice, the heterosexual choice. And they are willing to offer this help in the form of violent shock therapy and other “conversion” techniques. So I can absolutely understand why it feels much, much safer to believe that we are born this way, and then to circulate this idea like our lives depend on it (because, for some people, this really is a matter of life and death). Indeed, most progressive straight people and most gay and bi people–including Lady Gaga herself–hold the conviction that our sexual orientation is innate. They have taken their lead from the mainstream gay and lesbian movement, which has powerfully advocated for this view.

But the fact that the “born this way” hypothesis has resulted in greater political returns for gay and lesbian people doesn’t have anything to do with whether it is true. Maybe, as gay people, we want to get together and pretend it is true because it is politically strategic. That would be interesting. But still, it wouldn’t make the idea true.

Unknown2. The science is wrong (Part 1): People like to cite “the overwhelming scientific evidence” that sexual orientation is biological in nature. But show me a study that claims to have proven this, and I will show you a flawed research design. Let’s take one example: In 2000, a team of researchers at UC Berkeley conducted a study in which they found that lesbians were more likely than heterosexual women to have a “masculine” hand structure. Presumably, most men have a longer ring finger than index finger, whereas most women have the opposite (or they have index and ring fingers of the same length). Lesbians, according to this study, are more likely than straight women to have what we might call male pattern hands. The researchers concluded that this finding supports their theory that lesbianism might be caused by a “fetal androgyn wash” in the womb—that is, when female fetuses are exposed to greater levels of a masculinizing hormone, it shows up later in the form of female masculinity: male-pattern hands and… attraction to women. But this study makes the same error that countless others have made: it does not properly distinguish between gender (whether one is masculine or feminine) and sexual orientation (heterosexuality or homosexuality). Simply put, the fact that a woman is “masculine” (itself a social construction) or has been introduced to greater levels of a male hormone need not have anything to do with whether she is attracted to women. We would only assume this if we had already accepted the heteronormative premise that masculine people (or men) are naturally attracted to femaleness and that normal (i.e., feminine) women are naturally attracted to men. Herein lies the bias. Many “masculine” women who are heterosexual (have you been to the rural South?) would like you to know that their gender does not line up with their sexual desire in any predictable way. And many very feminine lesbians would like you to know this too. The bottom line is that ideas about sexual desire are so bound up with misconceptions about gender and with the presumption that heterosexuality is nature’s default, that science has yet to approach this subject in an objective way. For a comprehensive examination of the flaws in the most widely cited research on sexual orientation, see Rebecca Jordan-Young’s brilliant book Brain Storm: The Flaws in the Science of Sex Differences (Harvard University Press, 2011).

3. The science is wrong (Part II): An even greater problem with the science of sexual orientation is that it seeks to find the genetic causes of gayness, as if we all agree about what gayness is. To say that “being gay” is genetic is to engage in science that hinges on a very historically recent and specifically European-American understanding of what being gay means. In Ancient Greece, sex between men was normative and widespread; it was considered the most praise-worthy, substantive and Godly form of love (whereas sex between a man and a woman was, for all intents and purposes, sex between a man and his slave). If men having frequent and sincere sex with one another is what we mean by “gay,” then do we really believe that something so fundamentally different was happening in the Ancient Athenian gene pool? Wow! How did Plato’s ancestors later develop all of those heterosexual genes? And what about native cultures in which all boys engage in homosexual rites of passage? Do we imagine that we could identify some genetic evidence of propensity to ingest sperm as part of a cultural initiation into manhood? What about all of the cultures around the globe in which male homosexual sex does not signal gayness except for under certain specific circumstances (e.g., you are only gay if you are the receptive sexual partner, or if you are feminine)? And while I am on this subject, what about the fact the United States is precisely one of those cultures? When young college women lick each other’s boobs at frat parties, or when young college men stick their fingers in each other’s butts while being hazed by their frat brothers, we don’t call this gay—we call this “girls (and boys) gone wild.” My point here is that a lot of people engage in homosexual behavior, but somehow we talk about the genetic origins of homosexuality as if we are clear about who is gay and who is not, and as if it’s also clear that “gay genes” are possessed only by people who are culturally and politically gay (you know, the people who are seriously gay). This is a bit arbitrary, don’t you think?

Just 150 years ago, scientists went searching for the physiological evidence that women were hysterical. Hysteria, by Victorian medical definition, meant that a woman’s uteruses had become dislodged from its proper location and was floating around her body causing all sorts of trouble—like feminism and other matters of grave concern. And guess what, they found the evidence, and they published books and articles to prove it. They also looked for and found the evidence that all people of African and Asian ancestry were intellectually and morally inferior to people of European Ancestry. Many books were published dedicated to establishing these obviously absurd and violent beliefs as legitimate and indisputable scientific facts. Similarly, the science of sexual orientation has a long and disturbing history. In the late 1800s and early 1900s, it was believed that homosexuals had beady eyes, particularly angular facial structures, and “bad blood.” Today, we apparently have gender variant fingers and gay brains.

Is it possible that people who identify themselves as “gay” in the United States (again, keep in mind that “gay” is a culturally and historically specific concept), share some common physiology? Perhaps. But even if this is so, do we really know why? Indeed, we may find (as Simon LeVay did) that men who identify as gay share a certain trait—a larger VIP SCN nucleus of the hypothalamus, for instance. But how do we know that this “enlargement” is a symptom or cause of their homosexuality, and not, say, a symptom or cause of their general propensity for bravery, creativity, or rebellion? In a homophobic culture, you need some bravery (and other awesome traits) to be queer. Perhaps these personality traits are what are actually being observed under the microscope.

And, of course, there is the time-eternal question: why aren’t scientists looking for the genetic causes of heterosexuality? Or masturbation? Or interest in oral sex? The reason is that none of these sex acts currently violate social norms, at least not strongly enough to be perceived as sexual aberrations. But this was not always true. In the 19th century, scientists were interested in the biological origins of the “masturbation perversion.” They were interested because they believed it was pathological, and because they wanted to know whether it could be repaired.

At the end of the day, what we can count on is that the science of sexual orientation will produce data that simply mirror the most crass and sexist gender binarisms circulating in the popular imagination. This research will report that women are innately more sexually fluid than men, capable of being turned-on by almost anything and everything (hmmm…. other than in Lisa Diamond’s research, where have I seen that idea before? Ah yes, heterosexual pornography.) It will report that men are sexually rigid, their desires impermeable. It will tell us that straight men simply cannot be aroused by men and that gay men are virtually hardwired to be repulsed by the thought of sex with women. Regardless of what else we might say about the soundness of these studies, what is evident to me is that they have been used to authorize many a straight man’s homophobia, and many a gay man’s misogyny.

4. Just because you have had homosexual or heterosexual feelings for as long as you can remember, does not mean you were born a homosexual or heterosexual. There are many things I have felt or done for as long as I can remember. I have always liked to argue. I have always loved drawing feet and shoes. I have always craved cheddar cheese. I have always felt a strong connection with happy, trashy pop music. These have been aspects of myself for as long as I can remember, and each represents a very strong impulse in me. But was I born with a desire to eat cheddar cheese or make drawings of feet? Are these desires that can be identified somewhere in my body, like on one of my genes? It would be hard to make these claims, because I could have been born and raised in China, let’s say, where cheddar cheese is basically non-existent and would not have been part of my life. And while I may have been born with some general artistic potential, surely our genetic material is not so specific as to determine that I would love to draw platform shoes. The point here is that what we desire in childhood is far more complex and multifaceted than the biological sciences can account for, and this goes for our sexual desires as well. Some basic raw material is in place (like a general potential for creativity), but the details—well, those are ours to discover.

5. Secretly, you already know that people’s sexual desires are shaped by their social and cultural context. Lots of adults worry that if we allow little boys to wear princess dresses and paint their nails with polish, they might later be more inclined to be gay. Even some liberal parents (including gay and lesbian parents) worry that if they introduce their child to “too much” in the way of queer material, this could be a way of “pushing” homosexuality on them. Similarly, many people worry that if young women are introduced to feminism in college, and if they become too angry or independent, they may just decide to be lesbians. But if we all really believed that sexual orientation was congenital—or present at birth—then no one would ever worry that social influences could have an effect on our sexual orientation. But I think that in reality, we all know that sexual desire is deeply subject to social, cultural, and historical forces. We know that if the world today were a different place, a place where homosexuality was culturally normative (like, say, Ancient Greece), we would see far more people embracing their homosexual desires. And if this were the case, it would have nothing to do with genetics.

The concept of “sexual orientation” is itself less than 150 years old, and almost equally recent is the notion that people should partner based on romantic attraction. Most of what feels so natural and unchangeable about our desires—including the bodies and personalities we are attracted to—is conditioned by our respective cultures. The majority of straight American men, for instance, will tell you that they have a strong, visceral aversion to women with bushy armpit hair. But this aversion, no matter how deep it may now run in men’s psyches and no matter how nonnegotiable it may feel, is hardly genetic. Up until the last century, the entire world’s female population had armpit hair, and somehow, heterosexual sex survived.

People like to use the failure of “gay conversion” therapies as evidence that homosexuality is innate. First of all, these conversions do not always fail; if you make someone feel disgusted enough by their desires, you can change their desires. Call it a tragedy of repression, or call it a religious awakening—regardless, the point is that we can and do change. For instance, in high school and early in college, my sexual desires were deeply bound up with sexism. I wanted to be a hot girl, and I wanted powerful men to desire me. I was as authentically heterosexual as any woman I knew. But later, several years into my exploration of feminist politics, what I once found desirable (heterosexuality and sexism) became utterly unappealing. I became critical of homophobia and sexism in ways that allowed these forces far less power to determine the shape of my desires. If this had not happened, no doubt I’d be married to a man. And if he wasn’t a complete asshole, I’d probably be happy enough. But instead, I was drawn to queerness for various political and emotional reasons, and from my vantage point today, I believe it to be one of the best desires I ever cultivated. [Does this mean that your daughter may decide to be a lesbian if she takes some women's studies courses? Yes. Whatcha gonna do now?!]

Perhaps most importantly, the fact that we might cultivate or “choose” something doesn’t mean that it is a trivial, temporary, or less a vital part of who we are. For instance, is religion a choice? Certainly it is if we define “choice” as anything that isn’t an immutable part of our physiology. But many religious people would feel profoundly misunderstood and offended if I suggested that their religious beliefs were a phase, an experiment, or a less significant part of who they are then, say, their hair color. Choices are complex. Choices run deep. And yes, choices are both constrained and fluid–just like our bodies.

Post script: Ultimately, the terms set forward in the public debate about this subject–biology versus “choice”–are quite limited, mainly because “choice” is not the most useful term for describing all of the possibilities that sit apart from biology. Several social, cultural, and structural factors can shape our embodied desires and erotic possibilities. The fact that these factors are not physiological in origin does not mean that they aren’t coercive or subjectifying, resulting in a real or perceived condition of fixity or “no choice.” We know that social factors also become embodied over time. And yet, I remain somewhat committed to the concept of “choice”–or something like it–to describe the possibility of a critical and reflexive relationship to our sexual desires. Personally, the idea that I don’t have control over who or what I desire is a big turn-off to me, so I am constantly pushing back on what feel like the limits of my own desires. For instance, I went through a period of pushing myself to date femmes because I had some good reasons for being suspicious about why I had ruled them out from my dating pool. When it felt like I could never be nonmonogamous, I made it a goal to at least try. Then when I realized I only really felt attracted to alcoholic rebels, I nipped that in the bud too. Just when I thought I’d never think hairy men were hot, I allowed myself to face my attraction to Javier Bardem. When my tastes and proclivities start to feel like they are solidifying, I get suspicious and disappointed. So, in the interests of full disclosure, I am writing from the perspective of someone who finds sexual fixity pretty uninteresting, and who believes that there are really good feminist and queer reasons to take regular, critical inventory of the parts of our sexuality that we believe we cannot or will not change.



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KEYWORDS: gay; genetics; homosexuality
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1 posted on 02/15/2014 6:22:17 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

all i know is my four year old grandson told my wife she had to wear makeup or people would think she was a man


2 posted on 02/15/2014 6:30:20 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: bigheadfred

“Grandson ..she?” Are you being facetious?


3 posted on 02/15/2014 6:34:12 PM PST by Fungi
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To: Fungi

The grandson was telling his grandmama that she (the grandma) needs markup. Lol


4 posted on 02/15/2014 6:36:23 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Fungi

I read that as him saying his wife is a “she”.


5 posted on 02/15/2014 6:36:45 PM PST by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I didn't agree with Gore Vidal on very much, but he was very clear on this: No one can BE homosexual. Also, no one can BE heterosexual. These are adjectives which describe your behavior.

If a man has sex with a man, he is engaging in homosexual acts, and he is acting in a homosexual manner. Men in prison do this. Men in San Francisco do this.

Most men get married and engage in heterosexual acts with their wife: they act in a heterosexual manner. Rock Hudson was capable of this, but he preferred not to.

And this leads to the notion that people can change their lives, we have free will, we can make choices, and we can repent and reform, if we wish.

But the activists don't want to hear about it.

6 posted on 02/15/2014 6:38:31 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Puppage; Fungi

point of fact i managed to love my wife into the belief she was more than fine to me just the way she is

but my wife does use some makeup to cover the five o clock shadow other than that...


7 posted on 02/15/2014 6:41:16 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Fungi

read it again but slower this time and think.


8 posted on 02/15/2014 6:44:10 PM PST by fish hawk (no tyrant can remain in power without the consent and cooperation of his victims.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

RE: Gore Vidal

He was openly gay when it was not popular to out oneself in the 1960’s.

In fact, his NPR protagonist, William F. Buckley Jr. called him Queer on TV (and got away with it without any of the “outrage” and demand for him to be canned that we would expect today ).

Anyway, In the September 1969 edition of Esquire, for example, Gore Vidal wrote:

“We are all bisexual to begin with. That is a fact of our condition. And we are all responsive to sexual stimuli from our own as well as from the opposite sex. Certain societies at certain times, usually in the interest of maintaining the baby supply, have discouraged homosexuality. Other societies, particularly militaristic ones, have exalted it. But regardless of tribal taboos, homosexuality is a constant fact of the human condition and it is not a sickness, not a sin, not a crime ... despite the best efforts of our puritan tribe to make it all three. Homosexuality is as natural as heterosexuality. Notice I use the word ‘natural,’ not normal”


9 posted on 02/15/2014 6:45:35 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: ClearCase_guy

Men are pigs, we have the ability to sexualize anything. God told us to leave other men and the livestock alone.

I’m not sure what’s going on with the women.


10 posted on 02/15/2014 6:46:51 PM PST by dangerdoc (I don't think you should be forced to make the same decision I did even if I know I'm right.)
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To: SeekAndFind
“Actually, there is no such thing as a homosexual person, any more than there is such a thing as a heterosexual person. The words are adjectives describing sexual acts, not people. The sexual acts are entirely normal; if they were not, no one would perform them.” ― Gore Vidal, Sexually Speaking: Collected Sex Writings
11 posted on 02/15/2014 6:48:36 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: SeekAndFind

thanks for stating something a lot of us have known for years. I just got off of Face Book and a hour long argument with a youg girl about homosexuality and Christianity. Interesting but I got tired of pointing out that almost every statement she made about it and what the Bible does and does not say about it was immature and false. The same old Cliché, Jesus didn’t say a word about Homosexuality in the Bible. This is bogus and untrue. No, not in your “red Letters” Bible but through the Holy Spirit, the Old Testament and the apostles, he said plenty .


12 posted on 02/15/2014 6:50:27 PM PST by fish hawk (no tyrant can remain in power without the consent and cooperation of his victims.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

MMmm. Perhaps. But, are you not confusing action (which is a choice) with attraction (which, even if not in-born,is hardly a choice)?


13 posted on 02/15/2014 6:50:56 PM PST by MrChips (Ad sapientiam pertinet aeternarum rerum cognitio intellectualis - St. Augustine)
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To: SeekAndFind

I suppose incest falls into the same category. Watch for the push on that next. Or pedophilia.


14 posted on 02/15/2014 6:56:47 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: MrChips
Well, there is the notion that a man commits adultery when he looks upon a woman with lust in his heart. We have a sin nature, and we sin constantly. It cannot be avoided.

A man looks at a beautiful woman, and perhaps he sins. Perhaps he cannot help it. He is attracted to her. What can one do?

Now, some men look upon other men in the same way. There is an attraction. Again, it is a sin. What can one do?

But where we err is when we walk across the bar and strike up the conversation with the person whom we know we should not have an attraction for. And then we go back to the hotel with them. This is completely in the realm of choice.

People should choose wisely.

15 posted on 02/15/2014 6:58:37 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: bigheadfred

Haha, and our son crawled all over the stuffed animals and dollies to get to the trucks. One of my first aha moments!!


16 posted on 02/15/2014 7:08:03 PM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: dangerdoc

Dangerdoc, you are right. Women are not so, I believe, because we are biologically the childbearers.

When we were first married and looking for a place to rent, I pulled up to a house, opened the car door, and a cat jumped in, took a brief look at the Border Collie in the back seat, and settled in as if he just belonged there. He was a stray, so I took him to the vet. The vet told me the males were like that - friendly and easy-going, but the females were not at all. They were more skittish, due to their strong instinct to protect their young. I think it works like this across the board.


17 posted on 02/15/2014 7:12:21 PM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: SeekAndFind

If “being homosexual” is NOT a choice but inborn, then explain bi-sexual ..... Is THAT a choice?


18 posted on 02/15/2014 7:15:59 PM PST by Optimist
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To: ClearCase_guy
No matter what Vidal said, it is not normal, even for a man to even desire men over women. Same gender sexual relations are sin whether without gay or not, and cannot be justified even if there is a genetic predisposition (and DNA can change thru generations due to experience). But we all have sinned to varying degrees, and there is room at the cross for all who will repent and believe on the Son sent by the Father to be the Savior of the world. Thank God.
19 posted on 02/15/2014 7:20:32 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: SeekAndFind
So alot of people are born a particular way..people are born with out arms or legs or blind. ...the question is then is it a birth defect?.....if so its valid to try and correct...but the current position seem is not valid to correct...to the point that with so called trans gender..the birth defect is the gender they were born ...so it valid to try to correct body to mind..but not valid to correct mind to body
20 posted on 02/15/2014 7:20:49 PM PST by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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