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Poor Ukraine: So Close to Putin, So Far From God
Thee Streetwise Professor ^ | February 17, 2014 | The Professor

Posted on 02/18/2014 9:06:43 AM PST by No One Special

The situation in Ukraine has reached something of a denouement. The opposition leadership and the regime have reached an agreement whereby the government will amnesty arrested protestors, and the protestors will end the occupation of government buildings and permit traffic to move on Hrushevskyy Street, although they will not dismantle the barricades altogether.

This deal has been met with some dismay (and in cases, anger and bitterness) on Maidan, and with good reason. The protestors have given up their main leverage, and although they have threatened to re-occupy the buildings and Hrushevskyy Street if Yanukovych’s regime backslides, this is likely an empty threat. The regime was surprised once, but is unlikely to be surprised twice, and will be ready to respond aggressively to any attempt to take the buildings again.

Conversely, the government can easily re-arrest those that it has amnestied-and many more to boot. There is thus a pronounced asymmetry between the concessions made by the government, and those made by the opposition.

In brief, although Yanukovych has not triumphed, the threat to him has abated considerably and the correlation of forces has shifted palpably in his direction.

Perhaps reflecting this, Putin has relented and will proceed with the purchase of the next tranche of $2 billion in Ukrainian Eurobonds.

Truth be told, the real threat to the Yanukovych regime is economic. The Ukrainian currency, the Hryvnia, is the best readily available indicator. It has plunged from 8.2 to the dollar at the beginning of Maidan, to 8.8/8.9 to the dollar at present. Although it rallied to 8.4 a week ago, when the outlines of a deal were in prospect, and when Ukraine imposed capital controls, it weakened almost immediately thereafter. The current depressed level augers poorly for Ukraine’s future prospects.

And here is the tragedy. An economic collapse, which would be accompanied by a further collapse in the currency, would be the most likely cause of Yanukovych’s political demise. But then the opposition would inherit a horrible situation which would require it to take measures that would inevitably lead to it becoming hated and despised. It is also not an environment conducive to the completion of the constructive economic and political reforms the country so desperately needs. Think of Russia ’91-’92, or ’98-’99. The reformers ended up totally discredited and hated, paving the way for the emergence of Putinism.

The end result is unlikely to be a Ukraine that resembles Poland, on a path to converging with the EU. A more likely outcome is a perpetual Sovokistan, and one that is a satrapy of Russia to boot.

An incipient collapse would put Putin in a hard place. He would be forced to double down and increase economic assistance-likely throwing bad money after worse-or to stand aside and watch the whole thing collapse.

Cynic that he is, perhaps he would stand aside, on the calculation that he could take advantage of the collapse, and swoop in and pick up the pieces of a shattered country. And a prostrate Ukraine would hardly be attractive to the EU.

It pains me, but I just can’t see a clear path forward for the unlucky country. Belarus-light on the upside. Perpetual basket case as the middle scenario. Economic collapse and revolutionary chaos as the worst case

The Sovok legacy is too powerful: the country’s institutions are weak and fundamentally corrupt. Europe is feckless and disinterested, long on soaring rhetoric, short on Euros and will. Obama doesn’t give a rat’s rump about foreign policy generally, except for his Iranian legacy project: if he won’t bestir himself over the daily slaughter of hundreds in Syria, he’s not going to lift a finger to keep Ukraine from sullenly settling into a Russian orbit. In contrast, Putin is far more motivated, driven by his dream of undoing the results of the Cold War. He views Ukrainian independence from Russia as a historical monstrosity. He would no doubt prefer to eliminate Ukrainian sovereignty de jure, but would no doubt settle to eliminate it de facto–for now.

Ukraine is too close to Putin-and subjugation of Ukraine is a goal too close to Putin’s heart. Ukraine is far from the EU, farther still from the US, and farther still from the help of God.

I wish this weren’t so. I pray I am wrong. But as much as I admire the idealists on Maidan, and pull for their victory, I can’t see it happening. The mutilating historical legacy of the USSR is too powerful, a malign Russia is too close, and succor is very, very far away.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: kiev; ukraine

1 posted on 02/18/2014 9:06:43 AM PST by No One Special
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To: No One Special

Given the state of the US media, as props and dunderheads, will you expect to find even three people who know anything about what you’re talking about?


2 posted on 02/18/2014 9:18:17 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: RitaOK

Well yes, of course there will be only a few. Seems we are working on our own Sovokian legacy. That is the goal.


3 posted on 02/18/2014 9:41:09 AM PST by No One Special
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To: No One Special

I won’t argue that! .)


4 posted on 02/18/2014 10:02:10 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: No One Special

Espreso TV - LIVE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_LFrMcoEm4&feature=share


5 posted on 02/18/2014 10:34:48 AM PST by Viiksitimali
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To: No One Special; PieterCasparzen; Viennacon; Navy Patriot; GeronL; Ivan Mazepa

This coverage about Ukrainian situation is not without flaws but it seems like the most objective to date.


6 posted on 02/19/2014 5:14:33 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish
Good evening, fish, thanks for the ping.

Interesting, from the economics standpoint, both Putin and Ukrainians are at risk, but we know Soros profits from collapsing economies and collapsing currencies, and has done so repeatedly.

7 posted on 02/19/2014 5:40:15 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: cunning_fish; No One Special; PieterCasparzen; Viennacon; Navy Patriot; GeronL

The first two paragraphs are two days outdated, but the rest is very sound.
Hope he’s wrong in his conclusion


8 posted on 02/19/2014 7:22:14 PM PST by Ivan Mazepa
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To: No One Special

02/17/2014

Ukraine SITREP


9 posted on 02/26/2024 10:24:19 PM PST by linMcHlp
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com; Widget Jr; AdmSmith

02/18/2014
bttt


10 posted on 02/26/2024 10:25:20 PM PST by linMcHlp
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com; Widget Jr; AdmSmith
02/18/2014

Ukraine crisis: Russia to release new $2bn tranche

Russia will provide Ukraine with a new $2bn (£1.2bn) tranche of aid "this week", Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov has said.

In December, Moscow pledged $15bn to back Ukraine's struggling economy, but so far only $3bn has been transferred.

Russia had hinted it would freeze the aid until a new government is formed after Ukraine's PM quit last month.

The new tranche is seen as a boost to embattled President Viktor Yanukovych, who is facing mass protests.

In a separate development, Ukraine's opposition is planning to press for a vote in parliament on the return to the country's 2004 constitution - a move which would limit Mr Yanukovych's powers and could lead to snap presidential elections.


11 posted on 02/26/2024 10:34:14 PM PST by linMcHlp
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To: linMcHlp

10 days after that article, 10 years ago today, Russia occupied Crimea.


12 posted on 02/26/2024 11:51:45 PM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: AdmSmith; SpeedyInTexas; spirited irish; Widget Jr; UMCRevMom@aol.com
ON THE EFFECTIVE USE OF PROXY WARFARE - by Andrew Lewis Peek, May 2021, Dissertation for PhD

CHAPTER THREE: RUSSIA AND UKRAINE, 2013-2016 [pg 118 of 446 in the PDF file]

"This chapter will examine Russia’s use of proxy forces in Ukraine from the beginning of demonstrations in Kiev’s Maidan Square on November 21, 2013 to the dissipation of the conflict in 2016. Though it covers all the high-intensity periods of the war, this chapter is focused on the fighting in Donbas and not Russia’s takeover of Crimea."


13 posted on 02/27/2024 12:19:34 AM PST by linMcHlp
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