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Address to Owners of Weapons (Ukraine)
Ukrainian Association of Weapon Owners ^

Posted on 02/20/2014 5:51:32 PM PST by annalex

Address to Owners of Weapons

Owners of weapons,

We know that you are the most moderate and responsible part of the Ukrainian society, which so far did not participate in the standoff.

Unfortunately, however the conflict transitioned to the armed stage.

The control over the situation is effectively lost.

Now each one of us bears personal responsibility for his own safety and the safety of his family, and in this difficult time, also for the safety of his fellow countrymen.

Weaponry in the hands of responsible citizens has been in all times the bet peacemaker.

We call you to act, governed by your own convictions and all-mankind moral values and, in case of necessity, give a resolute resistance to the criminal elements. In all the rest we rely on your reason and responsibility.

Ukrainian Association of Weapon Owners

P.S. As regards local coordination, turn to info@zbroya.info


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; kiev; ukraine
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1 posted on 02/20/2014 5:51:32 PM PST by annalex
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To: A.A. Cunningham; andyk; BatGuano; bayliving; Belteshazzar; bert; Bibman; Bigg Red; bigheadfred; ...

If you want to be on this right wing, monarchy, paleolibertarianism and nationalism ping list, but are not, please let me know. If you are on it and want to be off, also let me know. This ping list is not used for Catholic-Protestant debates.


2 posted on 02/20/2014 5:52:27 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex
Ownership of guns in Ukraine: 6.6 per 100 people.
Ownership of guns in USA: 101 per 100 people.

I don't know how things will turn out for Ukraine, but in the US, when the flag goes up, I think we'll do OK.

3 posted on 02/20/2014 5:55:33 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: annalex

The problem is each side sees the other side as “the criminal elements.” And, from each perspective, they’re right. This statement, unless there’s something I don’t understand that’s implied, says nothing.


4 posted on 02/20/2014 5:56:19 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: annalex

I hope they got a lot of weapons and ammo into civilian hands when they their brief experiment with freedom. Maybe, they can preserve it.


5 posted on 02/20/2014 5:56:32 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: annalex

Snipers taking out snipers...


6 posted on 02/20/2014 5:58:24 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: FreeAtlanta
Maybe, they can preserve it.

Live free or die!

7 posted on 02/20/2014 5:59:13 PM PST by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: ClearCase_guy
It's coming....


8 posted on 02/20/2014 6:00:11 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: annalex
A collection of videos, that purports to prove the use of live ammunition by the government forces:

http://pauluskp.com/news/f94e18ada (scroll down)

I reproduce the photos directly:


Kalashnikov automatic rifles


Yellow armband are worn by the militia (i.e. government forces) and by hired "Titushki"


The titushki bandits with Internal Affairs Ministry bandits


Armed bandit with the yellow band, caught on car camera

9 posted on 02/20/2014 6:00:32 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

Food for thought.


10 posted on 02/20/2014 6:01:52 PM PST by skeeter
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To: ClearCase_guy

Ukraine has conscription, so most adult males have at least a degree of military training and experience, and its not like guns are hard to get hold of in Eastern Europe...


11 posted on 02/20/2014 6:04:30 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: annalex
As usual, excellent photo reporting by Bilozerska:

http://bilozerska.livejournal.com/814149.html




This is the bullet (observe dent in the door frame)

More at the link.

12 posted on 02/20/2014 6:06:44 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

Coming to a town near you soon.


13 posted on 02/20/2014 6:07:16 PM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: annalex

Do you think they put a golf course in the new bunker under the White House?


14 posted on 02/20/2014 6:09:27 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: annalex

Soros v. Putin. Difficult choice. And in the top picture, the only weapon I see being actually used is the Molotov.


15 posted on 02/20/2014 6:12:49 PM PST by PAR35
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To: annalex
Another, with artistic flair









This man is identified as a mathematician, fellow of Ukrainian Academy of sciences, with his son. Not exactly unemployed hooligans.


16 posted on 02/20/2014 6:12:49 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: PAR35
At least three are Kalashnikov rifles in #9 top, folding metal butt.

The choice is no longer about Soros, and probably never has been.

17 posted on 02/20/2014 6:16:23 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

18 posted on 02/20/2014 6:18:53 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

When I was a kid in 1st grade at St. Joesphat’s in Phila. they made us learn ukrainian for some reason. To this day I know not why.


19 posted on 02/20/2014 6:19:22 PM PST by bicyclerepair (TERM LIMITS .......... TERM LIMITS .......... TERM LIMITS)
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To: grobdriver
Live free or die!

Amen Brother!

That should be our rallying cry!
20 posted on 02/20/2014 6:23:12 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: annalex

They’re getting more consideration than the citizens of the state of Connecticut. BTT


21 posted on 02/20/2014 6:23:15 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Gen.Blather

It is easy. Gun confiscation is tantamount to going to prison without due process. SWAT should only be used for defensive purposes.


22 posted on 02/20/2014 6:23:16 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: annalex
The blogger says: "Whole world should see this photo!"


I have no words to describe this. This is a people's uprising in the true sense. Hundreds of people, mostly women and the elderly on the corner of Institutskaya and Bankova streets formed human chains and pass forward cobblestones to fight off Berkut (the militarized police). Are they whom Yanukovich intends to fight?

23 posted on 02/20/2014 6:29:30 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

Thank You for the Ping Annalex, this is something everything needs to read.


24 posted on 02/20/2014 6:46:28 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: annalex

Bump


25 posted on 02/20/2014 6:49:38 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: KC_Lion

Maybe the Russians could learn something from this.


26 posted on 02/20/2014 6:58:31 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: bicyclerepair
Maybe because its patron saint was St. Josaphat?
27 posted on 02/20/2014 7:01:18 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

Thanks for posting


28 posted on 02/20/2014 7:15:01 PM PST by KOZ.
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To: annalex
Something about that seems....familiar:


Just saying...
29 posted on 02/20/2014 7:37:05 PM PST by RandallFlagg ("I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it." --Quigley)
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To: annalex

So, is that thing strapped to her butt to keep someone from spanking her?


30 posted on 02/20/2014 7:43:41 PM PST by PLMerite
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To: ClearCase_guy

“I don’t know how things will turn out for Ukraine, but in the US, when the flag goes up, I think we’ll do OK.”

“Ownership of guns in Ukraine: 6.6 per 100 people.
Ownership of guns in USA: 101 per 100 people.”

Ownership of bullets by the Federal government: ~3000 per 100 people.


31 posted on 02/20/2014 7:48:03 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: RandallFlagg

That is the “turtle”, as used by the Romans.


32 posted on 02/20/2014 7:49:59 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: annalex

For purposes of providing some balance, here is a video of anti-government “activists” firing at police from behind the curtain of a hotel window.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2PTeUBCPAQ

Enjoy comrade.


33 posted on 02/20/2014 7:58:19 PM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: grobdriver

How about,

“Live free and make them die!”


34 posted on 02/20/2014 8:16:55 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: mac_truck

Sounded like they are shooting a pellet gun.


35 posted on 02/20/2014 8:23:16 PM PST by Dan Cooper
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To: The Antiyuppie

“Ownership of bullets by the Federal government: ~3000 per 100 people.”

There are a lot more American people than there are fedgov jack-booted thugs and we have a LOT more guns and ammo than they do.

Bring it owebama. I’m tired of waiting.


36 posted on 02/20/2014 9:22:56 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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To: PLMerite
You've never seen a situpon before?
37 posted on 02/20/2014 10:01:15 PM PST by Vroomfondel
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To: Vroomfondel

I figured it was something like that, but I thought the spanking thing was funnier. :)


38 posted on 02/20/2014 10:26:08 PM PST by PLMerite
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To: mac_truck
Yes. No one is denying this. In revolutions normally there is violence on both sides. comrade

Don't comrade me, leftwing trash.

39 posted on 02/21/2014 5:52:39 AM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex
Update. The bloodied man on the photo with his son is Ph.D in technology, professor, chairman of the Mathematical Methods of Information Security of the Research institute KPI (I can't decipher the abbreviation), fellow of the Cybernetics Institute of the Academy of Sciences of Ukraine Nikolai Yu. Kuznetsov.

Link

40 posted on 02/21/2014 6:02:44 AM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: PLMerite
spanking her

This is one victim:


Her name is Olesya Zhukovskaya.

This is another:



Her name is Yekaterina Bolshakova (Link)

41 posted on 02/21/2014 6:24:03 AM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

You are right. This photo says a lot.

Prayers up for these people.


42 posted on 02/21/2014 7:16:42 AM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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To: Dan Cooper
Sounded like they are shooting a pellet gun.

Didn't look like they were aiming too carefully either. I wonder how many civilian injuries they caused.

43 posted on 02/21/2014 7:48:50 AM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck
“Didn't look like they were aiming too carefully either. I wonder how many civilian injuries they caused.”

Some of the government snipers are taking much better aim to injure civilians.

Snipers targeting news crews filming from windows, incl@ABC's camera. Bullet crashed through window, per@mattmcgarry in #Kiev #euromaidan>

44 posted on 02/21/2014 9:55:59 AM PST by FBD
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To: annalex

Great photos. Thanks for sharing this information.


45 posted on 02/21/2014 9:58:01 AM PST by FBD
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To: annalex
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable”.JFK

When democracy turns to tyranny, we still get to vote. We just won't use voting booths to do it.
Mike Vanderboegh

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is the well-armed lamb contesting the vote. – Benjamin Franklin

“The rifle is the weapon of democracy… If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns, only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government—and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws.” -Edward Abbey

WHAT IS A PATRIOT?

PATRIOTS are not "Revolutionaries" trying to overthrow the government of the United States.

PATRIOTS are "Counter-Revolutionaries" trying to prevent the government of the United States, from overthrowing the Constitution of the United States. - Unknown Author


46 posted on 02/21/2014 9:59:11 AM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: annalex

If you have a ping list for this Ukrainian situation, please add me to it.
Thanks


47 posted on 02/21/2014 9:59:45 AM PST by FBD
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To: ClearCase_guy
when the flag goes up, I think we'll do OK.

When the flag goes up, there will be no "OK". There will only be the last man standing in a pile of rubble.

Just so's you know.

"LMS in a pile of rubble" is better than "supine under the remorseless boot of violent tyranny" ... but it's still no picnic. Be aware of where we're headed. I'm convinced that it's not "OK" regardless of the outcome.

48 posted on 02/21/2014 10:00:40 AM PST by NorthMountain
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To: PieterCasparzen; boxlunch

Ping


49 posted on 02/21/2014 10:00:52 AM PST by FBD
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To: FBD
Some of the government snipers are taking much better aim to injure civilians.

Did someone pointing a video camera out of a hotel window at police during a riot really get a gun pointed back at them?

That changes everything...

50 posted on 02/21/2014 10:10:25 AM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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