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Dave Says: Casinos Don't Make Millions by Letting People Win
Townhall.com ^ | March 5, 2014 | Dave Ramsey

Posted on 03/05/2014 7:38:49 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 03/05/2014 7:38:49 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Slots KEEP 97-98% of the money they take in.


2 posted on 03/05/2014 7:39:50 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Kaslin
Casinos Don't Make Millions by Letting People Win

No, in fact people that win too much tend to disappear...

3 posted on 03/05/2014 7:42:08 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: Kaslin

I bet on the House when buying stocks back in mid 2009. Made a large amount of my “crash” loses back by year end.


4 posted on 03/05/2014 7:42:40 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever!)
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To: driftdiver
Slots KEEP 97-98% of the money they take in.

Try again. They pay out 88-95%. Source: http://www.americancasinoguide.com/slot-machine-payback-statistics.html#Nevada

They make a lot of money on that 5-10% margin. Other table games have similar payout rates in the long run.

5 posted on 03/05/2014 7:43:16 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Kaslin

This news?


6 posted on 03/05/2014 7:43:43 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever!)
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To: driftdiver

Don’t know why this was a Dave Ramsey question. I never personally got the whole gambling thing. I do believe that our brains and their pleasure centers(Dopamine receptors) are wired differently for pleasure. Some find pleasure and a rush in sex, some food, some gambling, some booze, drugs. Mine is NOT gambling and I have won at the blackjack table, but was able to walk away once I had more chips there than when I started.


7 posted on 03/05/2014 7:44:42 AM PST by pburgh01
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To: Kaslin

I went to a casino exactly TWICE

Both times I figures I would spend about $100, the usual amount I would spend for dinner and a movie

One time I came home with $46, the other I came home with about the same.

So, I had a couple of hours of fun for less than a normal night out. If you look at it that way you are probably OK

But if you go there to win and solve your money problems, you are probably doomed


8 posted on 03/05/2014 7:47:39 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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When someone tells me they gamble for fun or recreation, my first thought is they’re delusional enough to believe that they’ll actually win—that they think they’re the exception to the rule.

I've been to plenty of casinos around the country. I've lost money & won money. Play the right games, be disciplined about your money & don't get greedy.

It's funny how many anti-gambling fundamentalists think no one EVER wins ANY money. I suspect most of them have never set foot in a casino.

9 posted on 03/05/2014 7:48:34 AM PST by gdani
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Yep. Difference between looking at gambling as "entertainment" and looking at it as "making money".

I like to play blackjack. Sometimes I win. Sometimes I lose. But I always have fun, and the cost of that fun is however much I wager in an evening. Whether I make any of it back, or not, is immaterial.

10 posted on 03/05/2014 7:57:33 AM PST by wbill
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To: PapaNew

More than a few Blackjack players have figured out how to win. They are then banned for life. Some resort to disguises to play. Once they are caught doing that, something worse could happen, especially so when the mob ran Las Vegas.


11 posted on 03/05/2014 7:58:06 AM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished)
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One of our So Cal equipment operators went off to one for the weekend after a friday of work. He arrived, took his bag up to his room, went to eat dinner, pulled a slot and won $10,000 on the way there, ate dinner, went upstairs and got his bag and checked out. He knew how to stay ahead on that one ;-)


12 posted on 03/05/2014 8:03:24 AM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Yo-Yo
Propaganda. Most slots prompt you to bet multiple lines, so on a $0.25 slot you bet two or three dollars per spin. After betting a couple dollars, the slot pays out $0.25. The slot has technically paid out, but you still lost $1.75.
13 posted on 03/05/2014 8:04:20 AM PST by Yogafist
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Casinos Don't Make Millions by Letting People Win

Thank you Captain Obvious.

14 posted on 03/05/2014 8:05:56 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Kaslin
In most states, casinos are strictly regulated by law WRT how much they keep---and how much is given back to gamblers.

Casinos gladly comply w/ all L/E directives---b/c they value their licenses which are easily lifted if they screw-up.

FOR EXAMPLE---Most casinos will not accept wire-transfers of monies from gamblers in govt locations----since they feel the monies are a result of stealing.

However, it is conjectured money-laundering takes place---when large amounts of untraceable chips are bought---but not cashed in. The purchase can be listed on tax returns as a loss. (The chips can be cashed in casinos worldwide.)

15 posted on 03/05/2014 8:11:50 AM PST by Liz
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The MIT blackjack team of the early 90s was able to win—but even they got identified eventually. However, their system of playing was amazingly sophisticated. The only other successful effort from that era of which I have information was also a sophisticated team organization and it was also staffed with university students. These teams literally are more scientifically advanced than the casinos.


16 posted on 03/05/2014 8:12:03 AM PST by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: luvbach1
More than a few Blackjack players have figured out how to win. They are then banned for life. Some resort to disguises to play. Once they are caught doing that, something worse could happen, especially so when the mob ran Las Vegas

It's worse than that. It's not mob thugs who punish the winners. It is legitimate state legislators in the legitimate state capitol writing legitimate state laws voted-in by legitimate voting citizens who authorize the jail and fines and punishments for casino customers who learn how to consistently win.... And these same legislators, etc., codify legitimate law allowing the casinos to literally take money out of your hand and put it into their pocket, and give you literally nothing in return except loud noise and loud lights. State regulated casinos and state lotteries are the epitome of unjust, immoral, state activity.

17 posted on 03/05/2014 8:15:41 AM PST by mbarker12474
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Propaganda. Most slots prompt you to bet multiple lines, so on a $0.25 slot you bet two or three dollars per spin. After betting a couple dollars, the slot pays out $0.25. The slot has technically paid out, but you still lost $1.75.

Not propaganda. In Nevada payout rates are set by law. In Indian Casinos, the payout rates may or may not be regulated depending on the state.

Did you even read the source I linked to? I thought not.

18 posted on 03/05/2014 8:16:32 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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So, I had a couple of hours of fun for less than a normal night out. If you look at it that way you are probably OK

You literally took money out of your pocket and placed it into a collection pot of some other guy. And got NOTHING.

You saw no movie. You got no burger and fries. You had to pull a lever. You were assaulted by noise and lights. You participated in an industry which destroys marriages and families by preying on the unhealthy urges and addictions of men.

I've done this too. It's not fun. It's wicked. And the state endorses it.

19 posted on 03/05/2014 8:22:55 AM PST by mbarker12474
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To: iacovatx

Just how do you “count cards” with SIX deck black jacK. With six decks that is 24 aces to keep track of. It is ridiculous.


20 posted on 03/05/2014 8:27:00 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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