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Retired Air Force general stands by theory Malaysian Airlines flight could have landed in Pakistan
The Daily Caller ^ | 19 Mar 2014 | Jamie Weinstein

Posted on 03/19/2014 10:48:45 AM PDT by mandaladon

Retired Air Force General Thomas McInerney isn’t backing away from his thriller novel-like suggestion that the missing Malaysian Airlines flight could have very well landed in Pakistan — and he says his theory is based on more than mere conjecture.

“General, I’ve known you a long time, I know you too well to know that you’re not just making this up, this is not something you’ve concocted. You’ve spoken to a number of people, am I correct?” Sean Hannity asked McInerney during Tuesday night’s episode of “Hannity” on Fox News.

“Yes, but that’s all I want to say, Sean, please,” McInerney responded.

McInerney said that while he has reason to believe the plane landed in Pakistan, he has no idea about the fate of the passengers.

“I don’t know anything about their status,” he said.

McInerney pointed to the way the U.S. and Israeli militaries have acted in recent days to suggest that much more is known about the missing flight than has so far been revealed.

“First of all, let me say, when the U.S. Navy quits their search — their ship search — they must know something in the Indian Ocean,” he said. “When the Israeli Defense Forces, when they increase their air defense alert, they must know something.”

“My concern is, if this airplane could be used as a bearer of a weapon of mass destruction or even conventional munitions that could attack a carrier, the Israelis, other allies, American Forces, for instance,” he added. “We have to be very alert until we know exactly where this airplane is.”

McInerney said he believes “both pilots may have been complicit” and that the U.S. knows much more than it is letting on.

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“First of all, let me say, when the U.S. Navy quits their search — their ship search — they must know something in the Indian Ocean,” he said. “When the Israeli Defense Forces, when they increase their air defense alert, they must know something.”.................I agree
1 posted on 03/19/2014 10:48:45 AM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

His opinion at this point is the same value as any talking head on the boob tube so far.


2 posted on 03/19/2014 10:51:26 AM PDT by edcoil (Not a single republican was ever a slave owner. They were all democrats.)
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To: mandaladon

I agree too - that is, that we know much more than we’re making public. That much makes tactical sense.

The fantasy LOST type thriller that this is, just doesn’t happen. Yes, planes disappear, but they do so with a mayday, some form of trace, not with non-random acts that make them more difficult to find.

The question is, what are we doing about it? I’m trying to see the whole board here.


3 posted on 03/19/2014 10:53:42 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue (I have no home. I'm the wind.)
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To: mandaladon

Until something substantial goes “viral” on the media and net, its all conjecture and opinion.


4 posted on 03/19/2014 10:54:29 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: mandaladon

It could also have landed at the North Pole and is going to be used to pull Santa’s sleigh in place of Rudolph who has sadly passed away :(


5 posted on 03/19/2014 10:55:47 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: EagleUSA

Here is the full clip.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/3359318380001/malaysia-airlines-jet-held-by-terrorists-in-pakistan/#sp=show-clips


6 posted on 03/19/2014 10:56:23 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: mandaladon

Tom is very well informed and has terrific contacts in our military.

But he’s just plain wrong here.

No chance Flight 370 crossed India without detection.

Our radar at Diego Garcia covers well north of the southern tip of India, we would have spotted it.

No chance Flight 370 enters Pakistan’s air space without an intercept, especially from the east, India, that Pakistan is so paranoid about.

We monitor Pakistan’s air space and air traffic communications, we would know.

Israel is taking advantage of Flight 370 to draw attention to themselves.


7 posted on 03/19/2014 10:58:38 AM PDT by gandalftb (Go OK State Cowboys!!)
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To: mandaladon

I have no idea if it is in Pakistan, but I’m pretty sure it landed somewhere on a runway.


8 posted on 03/19/2014 10:59:32 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: gandalftb; maggief

“Our radar at Diego Garcia covers well north of the southern tip of India, we would have spotted it”

I think his point was we did see it and do know. I am getting the feeling that some are not happy with our response. This release helps turn the stove up a bit on the appointees in the meetings at CIA and DOD, LOL.


9 posted on 03/19/2014 11:04:08 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: mandaladon; All

This is what I believe too....though am not married to the idea of Pakistan.

Wherever it is, it can provide a method to transport a nuclear bomb for detonation over America. But here comes the brilliance of this. All of this could be done and the US will not be able to retaliate.

Think about it. Who are we going to retaliate against if lone agents bomb us?

The perfect plan for our enemies.


10 posted on 03/19/2014 11:05:08 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: gandalftb
Our radar at Diego Garcia covers well north of the southern tip of India, we would have spotted it.

I believe that's the point he was making. It had been tracked. He also said there will be a statement made within 48 hours? I know that really sounds sensational, but I don't know why he would make all that up if he did.

11 posted on 03/19/2014 11:06:11 AM PDT by CodeJockey (Christian, Freeper, Tea Party Member, Bitter Clinger, Creepy White Cracker)
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To: edcoil

His opinion at this point is the same value as any talking head on the boob tube so far.

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Correct...the good general’s credibility is about to take a nosedive.


12 posted on 03/19/2014 11:06:21 AM PDT by AFret. ("Charlie don't surf ! ")
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To: Red in Blue PA

How low would they have to fly that plane in order to penetrate our airspace undetected?


13 posted on 03/19/2014 11:08:04 AM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: mandaladon

I’m starting to believe the General. If it was a suicide mission, would it fly for 7 1/2 hours? If it was a fire on board, would it fly that long and have course corrections as I believe the military satellites have supplied us (according to a couple of articles)? If Boeing and Rolls Royce can remotely turn on the service that Malaysian Airlines had opted out of that would give them a location, (like On-Star), I think they know exactly where it is. That would be the General’s info source. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was in Pakistan, maybe with Iran’s help.Could it have flown over Maldives as some have said and directly to Pakistan and not over India? The target would be Israel. .....Or it’s at the bottom of the Ocean.


14 posted on 03/19/2014 11:08:15 AM PDT by wattsgnu
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To: WildHighlander57; hoosiermama; TigersEye; penelopesire; ConservativeMan55; AllAmericanGirl44; ...

Ping


15 posted on 03/19/2014 11:08:47 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: Beagle8U

Pulau We, Sabang, SBC. An airport. On an Island off the coast of Banda Aceh.


16 posted on 03/19/2014 11:13:50 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I just messed up my tagline. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: kevao
How low would they have to fly that plane in order to penetrate our airspace undetected?

He referenced some other flight number that 370 tracked, therefore making detection very difficult.

17 posted on 03/19/2014 11:18:00 AM PDT by CodeJockey (Christian, Freeper, Tea Party Member, Bitter Clinger, Creepy White Cracker)
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To: Beagle8U

Definitely something weird with no calls from passengers and yet no ELT’s going off.

That we know of, anyways.


18 posted on 03/19/2014 11:18:20 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: kevao

Or Israel. Or Europe.

Air defenses can be penetrated; there are none which are bullet proof, as this even showed all too well.


19 posted on 03/19/2014 11:18:31 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: mandaladon

I think General McInerney has been told by credible sources and he may even have been sent out as the first to start preparing the public for the truth.


20 posted on 03/19/2014 11:19:33 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: crosslink

If Diego Garcia picked up the flight seen by the people near Male then the GAN international airport south of there that was once a WWII base and now only serves visitors to the Shangra La spa and resort seasonable make even more sense.
Looked last night prices from Jan to April are greatly reduced. Lets take a road trip and look around Pictures look great and ONLY $700 /night


21 posted on 03/19/2014 11:20:27 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: crosslink

“Our radar at Diego Garcia covers well north of the southern tip of India, we would have spotted it”

Yes I’m sure thats true and they just have not shared it with us yet.


22 posted on 03/19/2014 11:20:42 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: mandaladon

McInerney suggested that MH370 may have crossed India by hiding in the radar shadow of SIA68, a Singapore Airlines flight heading to Europe.

Another possibility is that MH370 landed in the Maldives. From the Maldives, the plane could have been flown directly to Pakistan or Iran without crossing the airspace of any other country.

A commercial jet landing in the Maldives from Kuala Lumpur might not arouse suspicion if spotted by US military radar.

However, the US is presumably watching closely the airspace over Iran and Pakistan.


23 posted on 03/19/2014 11:21:44 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: mandaladon

Pakistan got the bomb from China. They would not want to piss off China by taking 200 of its people. The Taliban exists with tacit approval by Pakistan’s intelligence service. They would not want to go against their sponsors. The theory doesn’t seem like a likely scenario to me. But at this point, nothing makes sense, so who knows? He claims to have sources for the info. We will see, I guess.


24 posted on 03/19/2014 11:24:00 AM PDT by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: Meet the New Boss

Most interesting is that he stated that the Boeing Company knows that the aircraft is in Pakistan.


25 posted on 03/19/2014 11:24:10 AM PDT by CodeJockey (Christian, Freeper, Tea Party Member, Bitter Clinger, Creepy White Cracker)
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To: CodeJockey

What good has ever come out of the nation of Pakistan?

Please name me one thing.


26 posted on 03/19/2014 11:25:25 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: CodeJockey

If the last satellite ping was handed off or detected by a second satellite, then they may well have been able to triangulate and pinpoint an area such as Pakistan.

What they have told the public is that only one satellite received the pings and released a map of large arcs showing distance from the satellite where the aircraft might have been.


27 posted on 03/19/2014 11:27:47 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Defiant; crosslink

Last night the was a post that contained in its last paragraph the information that the quavers (sp) took credit for stealing the plane almost immediately. Hadn’t heard that before

Add that to your mix defiant


28 posted on 03/19/2014 11:28:22 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: hoosiermama

The general also mentioned that the US has some serious “ears” in that part of the region (middle east) and seemed to suggest that “we” had picked up on some voice communication, not navigational signals from the pilots.

There is a link in an above to the interview with Sean Hannity last night. If you have not listened to it, please do. Gen. McInerney does sound credible. Even apprehensive to speak at some times.


29 posted on 03/19/2014 11:34:46 AM PDT by CodeJockey (Christian, Freeper, Tea Party Member, Bitter Clinger, Creepy White Cracker)
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To: hoosiermama
Quavers? Do you mean Uighyers? (Pronounced wee-gurs). I have never heard of anything called quavers. If the Uighyers claimed responsibility, that would indicate that the plane landed somewhere in western China, where they are located. But you'd have to accept that the plane flew in another jets shadow for that to be viable. And that China hasn't found it in 10 days.

However, while I have seen speculation that it may have been the Uighyers, I have not seen any report that they have claimed credit. I did see reports early on that someone had called Beijing Airport about a threat, but that threat was not identified.

Or is there another group you are referring to? If so, look up the Quavers and I will check into it and add them to the mix. Maybe it was the Quakers from Sidwell Friends.

30 posted on 03/19/2014 11:35:40 AM PDT by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: mandaladon

Why would Iran or Pakistan need a run down 777 from Malaysia for some kind of terrorist operation when they hav so many of their own — and all they would have to do is paint it???


31 posted on 03/19/2014 11:49:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: CodeJockey
Yes, This stuff is leaked for a reason,the appointee’s are not making the hard decisions. This is done to make people get off their asses and make the hard choices.

I have also noted on the faces of many in the know extreme stress. Everyone except the guy picking teams.

32 posted on 03/19/2014 11:52:41 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: crosslink; hoosiermama; WildHighlander57; LucyT; null and void

“I think his point was we did see it and do know. I am getting the feeling that some are not happy with our response. This release helps turn the stove up a bit on the appointees in the meetings at CIA and DOD, LOL.”

“Formally invited”?? Hmm...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-plane-live-3258716#ixzz2wR7Nro6k

6:06 pm
The FBI and US Justice Department have offered to help the Malaysian government with its investigation ever since the plane went missing.

However, it was not until today that they were formally invited to join the inquiry.

Speaking to USA Today, Attorney General Eric Holder said the US and Malaysian governments have been “in ongoing conversations about how we can help.”

Holder added: “We’re working with authorities, but we don’t have any theories (on the cause of the plane’s disappearance).”


33 posted on 03/19/2014 11:57:16 AM PDT by maggief
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To: CodeJockey
Most interesting is that he stated that the Boeing Company knows that the aircraft is in Pakistan.

That's funny because the Boeing Company says that the plane went missing along the Sacred Arc that runs nowhere near Pakistan.

To date no one has debunked the engine-satellite-ping theory on the plane's location which would put it on that Arc and nowhere near Pakistan.

34 posted on 03/19/2014 11:58:25 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Defiant; hoosiermama; maggief; LucyT; null and void; crosslink; Black Agnes

Maybe the perps wanted to start something and don’t care.

Also that guy “jaffar the pilot” is still at large.

Stolen 777 + Jaffar + something nasty = Bad Moon Rising


35 posted on 03/19/2014 12:00:57 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: crosslink

Guy picking teams = who?

Thanks for the ping!


36 posted on 03/19/2014 12:02:21 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: maggief

Looks like the General got the desired results.


37 posted on 03/19/2014 12:02:24 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: crosslink

Think you are correct...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-plane-live-3258716#ixzz2wRBGmTvE

2:37 pm

Thailand finally released radar data showing the plane turning west and Indonesia said it would allow surveillance planes fly in its airspace in the search for the plane.

1:03 pm
At this morning’s press conference acting transport minister Hishammuddin Hussein asked other countries to help by releasing their radar data.

He said: “I can confirm that we have received some radar data, but we are not at liberty to release information from other countries.

“I appeal to all our partners to continue volunteering any and all information that could help with the investigation and the search for MH370.”


38 posted on 03/19/2014 12:11:51 PM PDT by maggief
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To: mandaladon

Hello NAPA? This is Al Queda calling from Islamabad...you got a couple oil filters and some brake pads for a 2002 Boeing triple 7-200?


39 posted on 03/19/2014 12:15:19 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: maggief
The light is about to be turned on and the roaches are scattering. The General has many contacts including at the top at Boeing and the DOD. I may be wrong but my guess is he is a proxy for many.
40 posted on 03/19/2014 12:16:24 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: crosslink

The General is on Seans Radio program now. 3:39 est


41 posted on 03/19/2014 12:38:48 PM PDT by CodeJockey (Christian, Freeper, Tea Party Member, Bitter Clinger, Creepy White Cracker)
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To: CodeJockey

If I thought Hannity would let the man speak, I might tune in. Since he won’t, I won’t


42 posted on 03/19/2014 12:40:21 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: CodeJockey

Thanks big time


43 posted on 03/19/2014 12:42:14 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Who are we going to retaliate against if lone agents bomb us?

Mecca.

If we had a credible president, we would make such a promise.

44 posted on 03/19/2014 12:45:15 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: maggief

He is speaking now, he is pressing hard for people to take action or it will be moved and lost. He is 50-70% certain he is right. Very afraid of terror. Listed Boeing and RR as knowing. He says he has sources.


45 posted on 03/19/2014 12:45:28 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: chris37

Santa has used a red Mercedes SLR for a few years now.


46 posted on 03/19/2014 12:49:20 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: mandaladon

One thing is for sure, McInerney would not make a good politician. When asked a direct question he answers either yes or no.

Hannity: Do you believe the US government knows where this aircraft is?

McInerney: Yes


47 posted on 03/19/2014 12:57:51 PM PDT by CodeJockey (Christian, Freeper, Tea Party Member, Bitter Clinger, Creepy White Cracker)
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To: CodeJockey
Turns the heat up on many people which is the desired result of the people who leaked it. Just like Benghazi no one is making a decision.
48 posted on 03/19/2014 1:02:07 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: CodeJockey

Have listened.

He’s yet to give any concrete information not that there isn’t some possible out there.
The southern route has visual sightings and radar consistencies

Guess well know in time. Thought when I listen to video he was stalling for time. Who knows why?


49 posted on 03/19/2014 1:08:26 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: Defiant

That’s the group. Just had a brain fart this AM The article was posted about midnight last night. Last paragraph said the group had claim responsibility last week or so. It’s the first I’d heard of it


50 posted on 03/19/2014 1:15:50 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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