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To: WhiskeyX

There is no doubt in my mind that the 1787 Constitution has fully and lawfully superseded the Articles of Confederation for all practical purposes. I ask again, please enlighten me as to where I can find a reference to a perpetual union in the Constitution of the United States?


51 posted on 04/01/2014 6:09:31 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: jospehm20

“There is no doubt in my mind that the 1787 Constitution has fully and lawfully superseded the Articles of Confederation for all practical purposes.”

That is a misrepresentation of the facts to deceive yourself and the readers. The Constitution clearly states “Article. VI. All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.”

In other words, the Constitution says the “Engagements,” meaning the agreements, “entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.”

One of the agreements incorporated into the Constitution by Article VI is “The Articles of Confederation Article XIII. Every State shall abide by the determination of the united States in congress assembled, on all questions which by this confederation are submitted to them. And the Articles of this confederation shall be inviolably observed by every State, and the union shall be perpetual; nor shall any alteration at any time hereafter be made in any of them; unless such alteration be agreed to in a congress of the united States, and be afterwards confirmed by the legislatures of every State.”

You can drop the attempts to say the Constitution does not incorporate prior acts of the United States in the Articles of Confederation, because the Constitution clearly does incorporate the Engagements therein by Article VI.

Your false interpretation is made even more ludicrous insofar as it would imply the Constitution invalidated the Declaration of Independence, the Treaty of Paris of 1783 ending the Revolutionary War and granting British recognition of the independence of the United States, the Articles of Confederation, an assortment of other acts of the Continental Congresses and Congress and a wide array of Federal and state statutes that incorporate agreements by reference to prior acts.

So, your reference to a perpetual Union is to be found by reference in Article VI of the Constitution to the Engagement found in the relevant Articles of the Confederation.


59 posted on 04/01/2014 6:52:54 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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