Posted on 05/19/2014 12:02:00 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
Considering you guys lie as much as your Russian media do, I'd rather you defend your own claims, rather than me doing the hard work (as usual).
‘That’ wasn’t even a good try....sheesh!
I’m not defending anything...I don’t have to.....I am however, posting proof....which is more than you do.
The Maidan Rada actually passed cloture on a bill banning "piano voting" last week and will actually be voting on it...three hours from now! What a coincidence. That link should show the current progress of the bill.
The piano orchestra in action!
They seem to make girls differently in Ukraine, because even the female Ukrainian politicians are invariably as beautiful as they are corrupt.
Thank you....BTW It isn’t legal despite the fact they do this. So much for Ukraine politics....imagine if they handle voting this way in Rada is it no secret everything else, from the top down, is equally as corrupt.
As has been mentioned before...how Ukraine operates in their country and in their Government, as with all nations, is not going to be as we might think it should be. Heck, even our Gov. is just as corrupt!
Ukraine piano voting IS "a violation of the Constitution and several laws"...but that hasn't stopped it from being rampant in Ukraine....................One former legislator from the Party of Regions, billionaire Rinat "Akhmetov", was seen in the Rada only ONCE in the course of his five-year term — while his voting card was used in hundreds of votes.
83 lawmakers, or nearly 20 percent of Verkhovna Rada members, have been caught either voting for someone else or having colleagues vote for them since the NEW Parliament was sworn in in December.
Four members of the biggest opposition party, which had proposed to send piano voters to jail, have been caught doing it.............Mikhail Chechetov of Ukraine's Party of Regions does not see much of a problem......"What matters is that decisions that the country needs get passed," Chechetov told reporters.
Obama himself is a fascist.
This analysis makes a very clear case:
“Barack Obama, The Quintessential Fascist”
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html
During her confirmation hearings, she faced “sharp questions” about a memo she had sent outlining the talking points that would be used by the Obama administration in the days shortly after the 2012 Benghazi attack. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Nudleman is obviously a member of the Obama Shadow cabinet,dedicated to the usurpation of the Constitution.Obama and his entire regime are fascists according to many historians :
“Barack Obama: The Quintessenmtial Fascist”
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html
It is no surprise at all to the many historians who hold the view stated in this above referenced article, that the Obama Regime would pursue sub rosa linkage to other fascist organizations such as the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt with some of it’s members on the White House staff,Mexican Drug Cartels in Fast and Furious ,Ansar al Sharia in Benghazi which got 4 Americans killed, Boko Haram via former Sec. State Hillery Clinton which now runs rampant in the central African levant,Col. Gaafar Muhammad Nimeiry of North Sudan, The Orange Party of Kenya under Obama cousin Rial Odinga, and the Svoboda Party of Ukraine . There is a pattern of conduct for all to see that Obama is a fascist among fascists, as are Obama’s appointees.
The former policy of the USA was to hold no negotiations with terrorist organizations, now those terrorist organizations are being enlisted in the putative cause of America’s reformation,historic justice so called,led by a constitutionally traduced fascist Obama Regime.
The dynamic that Obama is counting on is that when one lays down with dogs, one contracts fleas. Obama enjoys watching his political enemies scratch themselves to death, while the wise among them apply generous amounts of flea powder,
and prepare for Obama’s destruction.
Getting into bed with fascists organizations is the identical approach used historically by the Islamofascists government of Saudi Arabia in dealing with the West and Israel, and why Obama kissed the hand of King Faud in 2009 as his willing accomplice.
Victoria Nudel is just doing the good work required by the FoC ( Fascist organization Chief), Barack Hussien Obama./S
Ms. Nudel is a petty facsist
among many brought together in the shadows by their dear leader , who have a shared agenda of the destruction of America, under the guise of reforming it. So is FBI director Comey, Eric Holder, Lois Lerner and the new Joseph Goebbels, Jay Carney, ALL cast from the same mold, along with thousands of others now working as federal civil servants.
We must rid ourselves of all of them.
Not only has the Left turned on Obama, as his inner circle grows he begins to mimic the Third Reich.... Fascist’s tend to repeat their own histories - if they are ducks they may deny but the walk the walk and it catches up with them.
There is absolutely nothing to be gained (except confusion?) by linking Victoria Nuland with the Obama administration. She is a professional diplomat; professional diplomats continue to serve as Republicon(tm) and Dummocrat(tm) administrations come and go.
This is how it is possible for the financial elites of America to run our government without us realizing it; they control the elite schools, and if they have successful minions, they gain new ones through their families. Minion families will intermarry; this greatly increases the ability to keep things quiet that the elites want kept quiet. Ms. Nuland is married to Robert Kagan, another minion. Ongoing US government involvement in foreign lands can thus conduct long-term projects spanning decades that are really just part of the elites’ private sector long-term projects.
From Nuland’s State Dept bio:
Ambassador Victoria Nuland assumed her position as Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs on September 18, 2013. As Assistant Secretary she is responsible for diplomatic relations with 50 countries in Europe and Eurasia, as well as with NATO, the European Union and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. Previously, Ambassador Nuland served as State Department Spokesperson.
Ambassador Nuland was Special Envoy for Conventional Armed Forces in Europe from February 2010 until June 2011, and before that, she served on the faculty of the National War College. Ambassador Nuland was the 18th United States Permanent Representative to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization from 2005 to 2008. As NATO Ambassador, she focused heavily on strengthening Allied support for the ISAF mission in Afghanistan, on NATO-Russia issues, and on the Alliance’s global partnerships and continued enlargement.
A career Foreign Service officer, Ambassador Nuland was Principal Deputy National Security Advisor to the Vice President from 2003 to 2005, and the U.S. Deputy Permanent Representative to NATO from 2000 until 2003. She also served as Deputy to the Ambassador- at-Large for the Newly Independent States of the former Soviet Union, with primary responsibility for U.S. policy towards Russia and the Caucasus countries, and was twice a visiting fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations — as a “Next Generation” Fellow looking at the effects of anti-Americanism on U.S. relations around the world, and as a State Department Fellow directing a task force on “Russia, its Neighbors and an Expanding NATO.”
From 1993 to 1996, Ambassador Nuland was Chief of Staff to the Deputy Secretary of State. Earlier in her career, she covered Russian internal politics at the U.S. Embassy in Moscow, served on the Soviet Desk in Washington, helped to open the first U.S. Embassy in Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia, worked in the State Department’s Bureau of East Asian and Pacific Affairs and served in Guangzhou, China.
She speaks Russian and French. Her awards include: the State Department Distinguished Honor award and several Superior Honor awards; the Department of Defense Medal for Distinguished Public Service; the Secretary of Defense’s Distinguished Civilian Service medal; and decorations from the Governments of Italy, Lithuania, and Albania.
She earned a B.A. from Brown University.
Nuland is not tied to the Obama administration; the Obama administration just happens to be in power at the moment. See my post 70.
Very disturbingly interesting.
All makes (evil) sense.
I still stand by my classifucation of Nuland as a liberal fascist. If her bio. showed military service or some other form of direct patriotic support for the Constitution, you might have a point.
All I see in Nuland is another Ivy League qualified liberal fascist who is actually over qualified to do perfectly nothing with NATO, where there is NOW no US leadership, and therefore Nuland presides over a NATO that is functionally dead.Obama killed NATO with his Libya grift on NATO.
I have absolutely no doubt that Obama and his minions will establish further ties with fascist organizations of every sort around the world. He has been doing so with the help of “qualified” people like Nuland since 2008, beginning with the Islamofascist Orange party in Kenya, for which Obama campaigned in 2006/2007 as a sitting Senator, in violation of the Logan Act.
There are various circles of TPTB. Inner and less inner; appointed and hired, and lifelong, etc.
They are all of them evil.
So this “liberal fascist” worked for George W. Bush as: U.S. Deputy Permanent Representative to NATO from 2000 until 2003.
Bush liked to hire liberal fascists.
And then for VP Dick Cheney as: Principal Deputy National Security Advisor to the Vice President from 2003 to 2005.
Yeh, I see what you mean. Cheney surrounds himself with liberal fascists.
LOL, don’t take it too seriously, I know what you mean.
The trick is, the “liberal fascists” are all following the orders of a few Yale guys whose daddys, granddaddys, etc., go way back in Wall Street and espionage circles.
Very interesting to research the personal and family relationships.
Bush liked to hire liberal fascists.>>>>>>>>>>>
The liberal fascists in many ways are us.All you need do is
look at the social mechanisms involved in the rise of the
Third Reich. The dynamic of intolerance of freedom for the sake of governmental control in the lives of the people was then accepted by people across the political spectrum. This comes from fear, and an abandonment of the fundamental principles evident in our Constitution. That malaise in many ways is a result of a devolution of spirit, and a complete dedication to the lights of materialism, as if the material realm holds every solution to the happiness of future mankind, and we are to be dragged willy-nilly down the road to a predefined utopia, inflamed by the glory of so called historic justice,where the sons and daughters of the so called wrongdoers of our history must pay the material and spiritual punishment of such historic justice, the running light of every fascist throughout history. This has resulted today in the gutting of all of our military and scientific institutions ( such as NASA), defining the death of American exceptionalism so much that China’s Renminbi is actually in the works to replace the US dollar as the world’s reserve currency and us with a budget deficit in excess of 17 Trillion dollars, purposefully generated to destroy America, by these Utopian liberal fascists. (Jonah Goldberg was right in his book, “Liberal Fascism.”)
This ALL is fueled by a complete confidence that the ideology one espouses is so vastly superior to any other, such as those who are purveyors of the Obama Movement and its insidious disempowerment of America,of whom Nudel is but one.The fascists of Europe were no different.
So I would trade Nudel and her ivy league qualifications for the strength of those who have served our nation , and who are beyond the engineered fear which drives so many towards the totalitarian imperative in todays government. And that trade is now in the process of happening electorally, as America now begins to awaken to the travesty that is the Obama executive branch, thugs and liars for the most part, including those who haul their water for them,(Lois Lerner and her constitutional crimes being a prime example of the so called “well qualified.”)
The post WWII excuses for those immoral excesses given by administrative people like Nudel in Germany, Italy and Czechoslovakia wwere that they were just following orders. They were to a man ( and woman)highly qualified with a complete abandonment of moral compass for the sake of unquestionable loyalty.These are the prime qualifications of civil service made by a fascist dictator, not an American president.
Winston Churchill advized us to fight such fascism through exposure, publication and ridicule.And that works. And that may offend people like you.You have to decide whether you prefer civility over freedom,and the rest of America has the same choice before it.
And we have been in the same position before, although the dynamic was of a different flavor, jst peruse the statements of well known liberals and democrats from history:
CHARLES LINDBERGH (Heroic Aviator)
“The leaders of the British and Jewish races, for reasons which are as understandable from their viewpoint as they are inadvisable from ours, for reasons which are not American, wish to involve us in the war.”
NEVILLE HENDERSON (British Ambassador to Germany)
“The hostile attitude in Great Britain was the work of Jews and enemies of the Nazis.”
NEVILLE CHAMBERLAIN (UK Prime Minister) told to JOSEPH KENNEDY (Family Patriarch)
“Chamberlain (speaking off the record to Kennedy while playing golf) stated that America and the world Jews had forced England into the war”. (The Forrestal Diaries ed. Millis, Cassell 1952 p129).
JOSEPH KENNEDY (Family Patriarch & US Ambassdor to the UK)
“As Ambassador to England, Joe would later make clear that he thought the Jews had `brought on themselves’ whatever Hitler did to them. During a 1938 meeting at the German Embassy in London, Kennedy assured the German ambassador that America only wanted friendly relations with Hitler.
Joe said that Hitler’s government had done `great things’ for the country, and that the Germans were `satisfied’ and enjoyed `good living conditions.’ Joe told the ambassador that a recent report which said the limited food in Germany was being reserved for the army could not be true. After all, Joe said, the professor who had made the report `was a Jew.’
Excerpt from “The Sins of the Father”
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So the question for all politicians including the Bushes and the Cheneys: is it totalitarianism or freedom?
The seductive nature of absolute power appeals
to all of the political elite, Democrats and Republicans alike, such as Speaker Boehner who still touts an amnesty America does not want so that we can have a renewed , exploited under class.They ALL must make the choice between totalitarianism and freedom clearly. Many are so traduced they are petty kings with no clothes, fooling none, trembling before a newly reawakened American electorate.
America awaits the outcome of choice, but there is little else to mitigate the dynamic of polarization invoked by the exploitation of every American social weakness that Obama and his minions can find, other than eventual civil war. I for one bear great hope for the continuity of free , fair elections, and I may be wrong that even that is still possible at this point. If it is not possible then America is doomed to war.
Its down to the count that the social inter-relationships of those in power, and the basis of their interconnectivity, is indeed a subject worthy of examination, as you say. People such as Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Trey Gowdy and Sarah Palin say much the same thing, but much more diplomatically, using the language of inference.
Good luck to you and yours.
Reference:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html
So much effort to paint an ism, liberal fascism, as the “enemy”.
An ism can’t be “the enemy” because enemies must be defeated by first identifying the enemy’s command and control, the individual real people who are its leadership. Going on the attack against an “ideology” is to tilt at windmills.
All this effort to never, ever admit that the Rockefeller establishment, new world order, etc., exists.
Yet it controls the boards of funds, corporations, endowments, etc., which are real. The boards make policy decisions, they are real people. The scope of this control extends to virtually the entire nation. The reader can ask themself why they all are in lock-step on the globalist agenda, either wholeheartedly or through simple non-opposition, i.e., tacit agreement. Is it mere coincidence that they’ve all been in lock-step for over 100 years, rotating jobs between a relative few elite for-profit firms, NGOs, academia, government and elite tax-exempt foundations all that time ? Walks like a shadow government, quacks like a shadow government...
I continually advise that NWO controls the political parties as a political show for the sheeple. Sometimes NWO “deniers” insist that we have only two choices: the electoral process or violent civil war. Well, no one wants violent civil war, so the sheeple are to conclude that their only course of action is the political process. Look for new fresh politician faces to “fix” government. Of course, having infinitely better funding and organization, the financial elites of NWO which control both parties can easily keep “getting to” any “outsiders” that manage to win primaries as fast as the sheeple can elect them. None of the sheeple working as political organizers actually admit to themselves who their actual adversary is. If we stubbornly opt for civil war, we’ve entered an environment where NWO can easily manipulate as they wish, since they can determine the winning factions through their financial support of them.
Clearly, normal politics or civil war is a false choice.
Right wing pundits are simply pushing the same right wing response that we’ve always had. This response only allows us to be slowly ratcheted towards totalitarianism. More importantly, it reinforces the idea that NWO is a wacky conspiracy theory.
If we only could have a “common man” politician instead of an “idealogue”.
That’s the same claptrap that’s always been used to foist a continuing stream of financial elites’ minions on us as political leaders.
Politicians are NOT the answer unless you OWN them.
This is a “war” of sorts between the elite Rockefeller establishment and the elite sheeple establishment.
Except the sheeple have not organized and created their “establishment” yet.
They’re too busy babbling about working for one of the Rockefeller’s political teams.
The Pubbie activists on FR, American Thinker, etc., are mostly railing against Obama as the source and cause of our problems.
How idiotic this will sound when Obama is gone, there’s a new adminstration, and,... duh..... surprise surprise.... all the same ratcheting towards totalitarianism / globalism continues.
Now WHO is really the leadership, the top of the hierarchy, of people pushing for totalitarianism / globalism ?
Who ? The movement survives from one adminstration to another. Call them what you want, fascists, statists, whatever. They keep coming back. They never leave. The people in the government are obviously just minions. Who exactly are they ULTIMATELY serving ? That ultimate leadership, that’s who needs to be stopped. They can just keep recruiting more minions as we “oust” minions, whether they are R or D-flavored minions.
Try reading a little:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html
and if you think you can stand it ,try this one too:
Sorry, I don’t read pundit-written books.
I’ll see your suggestion, however, and raise you an Antony Sutton:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3vZNSAi-QM
“The Best Enemies Money Can Buy”
Certainly, if you have any source documents relating to fabianism, international finance, central banking, espionage, etc., it would be great if you could post links here; I certainly would be interested in reading source document material.
Also interested in old contemporaneous news articles which reveal interesting facts regarding those same subjects. I find that old news articles often reveal things that modern day news operations currently exclude.
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