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The fact is that Jews have never voted republican, and it isn’t because of your bizarre claim about them being in La La land politically and just voting the same for a 150 years out of habit.

Actually you claimed that everyone takes forever to “change”, which just isn’t true at all.

You can’t ignore the facts about blacks for instance, until 1932, they always voted republican, in 1936 they made an instant, and permanent switch.

In 1932 the black vote being republican, gave the democrats the unsurprising 23%, and in 1936, they made the instant and permanent switch, suddenly going 71% democrat, and staying there.


48 posted on 05/20/2014 4:38:36 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12; MadMax, the Grinning Reaper; Eleutheria5; Nachum; Yaelle; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; All
The fact is that Jews have never voted Republican,...

I know we've had this argument before, but you are wrong by oversimplifying. The pattern of Jews voting 'Rat by large margins in presidential elections only began in the 1920s, with the coming of age of masses of relatively recent eastern European Jewish immigrants and their progeny who became at that time the large majority of American Jewish voters.

I know you are going to try to prove your point by presenting a well-worn historical table of Jewish voting compiled by partisan 'Rats. The fact is that up until about 1940, when the telephone had arrived in the majority of American homes, it was just about impossible to do any meaningful political polling of any demographic group, because there was no reasonable way to randomly sample sufficient numbers of voters.

But the fact is that from the start of the Republican Party c. 1854 with its anti-slavery emphasis, what few Jewish voters there were in the US at that time were predominantly from Germany and had totally different politics from their later-arriving Eastern European cohorts. Although no meaningful polling could be possibly done during the time frame between then and say, 1920 (when even the 'rats acknowledge that Harding won a plurality of Jewish votes), anecdotal evidence indicates that this much more established and well-to-do German Jewish population tended to vote Republican during this period. This is stated in "Politics and Parties in America," by Clinton Rossiter, published in 1960 and in Stephen Birmingham's popular history book about German Jews in America, "Our Crowd," published in the 1960s, IIRC.

77 posted on 05/20/2014 7:21:38 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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Why permanent? Nothing was written in stone by that 1936 election, though it might seem that way to you now. History didn't have to unroll as it did. In the 40s African-Americans were equally divided in identifying with the two parties, though they gave more votes to FDR and his Democrat successors. Still, Eisenhower and Nixon pulled in over a third of Black voters, so there was room for events to develop differently than they did.

I didn't claim to give a reason why Jews vote Democrat. That would entail a very long discussion. My point was just that the writer somehow assumed that Jews would be so turned off by Obama that they'd vote against him. But people who have been voting for Democrats for decades, people who voted for Mondale, Dukakis, Kerry and other Democrats down through the years aren't going to look at Obama as the author does. Why is that somehow controversial? And do we have to add Blacks and Jews to Catholics and Mormons on your list?

105 posted on 05/21/2014 1:22:16 PM PDT by x
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