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Cowardly Christian Entertainers
BarbWire ^ | June 17, 2014 | Marsha West

Posted on 06/17/2014 3:06:35 PM PDT by WXRGina

During an interview with The Independent last year, country western star Carrie Underwood, a professing Christian, got the media’s full attention when she decided to come out in support of gay “marriage.” “As a married person myself,” she chirped, “I don’t know what it’s like to be told I can’t marry somebody I love, and want to marry. I can’t imagine how that must feel. I definitely think we should all have the right to love, and love publicly, the people that we want to love.” Underwood also noted that she attends a gay-friendly church.

Four years ago another popular “Christian” singer, Jennifer Knapp, came out as a lesbian. In an interview Knapp stated that she wasn’t interested in becoming another spokesperson for the gay agenda because she wasn’t equipped for that. “I’m in no way capable of leading a charge for some kind of activist movement,” she bluntly told “Christianity Today” in 2010, adding, “I’m not capable of getting into the theological argument as to whether or not we should or shouldn’t allow homosexuals within our church.” (Source) Four years later we learn that Jennifer has boned up on theology 101 and now feels she’s capable of arguing her view on what the Bible teaches on homosexuality. Purchase her soon to be released book where she tells the story of her troubled life and you’ll discover Jennifer’s liberal theology. And, not surprisingly, on her book publisher’s website we learn that she has become an “advocate for LGBT issues in the church.”

The gay agenda has weaseled its way into all aspects of society, including religious institutions, corporations, politics, the media, education, the arts, the entertainment industry and so on. As a result, there’s a great divide in this country. Even though the Bible clearly opposes homosexuality, a growing number of professing Christians have no problem with it. Far be it from a Christian to hurt someone’s feelings or to be thought of as – gasp – homophobic. Anyone who dares oppose sodomy is said to be intolerant, even bigoted. Well, the fact of the matter is that society has been indoctrinated to believe that homosexuality is normal and natural despite the fact that the scriptures teach just the opposite. Not only is sodomy deemed unnatural, the Apostle Paul uses the term unseemly:

For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. (Rom 1:26-27)

With all the health risks involved in homosexual behavior why are Christians expected to be tolerant instead of outraged?

The vast majority of highly respected, published, biblical scholars agree that Scripture clearly teaches that homosexuality is sin. Therefore practicing same-sex sex is unacceptable to God…to Jesus…to the Holy Spirit…in other words, to the holy Trinity.

Pastor Larry Tomczak said of so-called Christian entertainers who seem more concerned about their careers than with what the Bible teaches, “To say we genuinely care about our fellow man, yet not “speak the truth in love” is cowardice.”

Amy Grant and Dan Haseltine are the most recent Christian entertainers to take a stance on gay “marriage.” They’re for it. Thus, Amy and Dan are cowards.

Amy Grant is a singer-songwriter, musician, author and actor. This accomplished woman also has dozens of Dove awards, six Grammys and a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Dan is the lead singer of popular Christian singing group Jars of Clay and “tweeter” extraordinaire.

Recently Grant agreed to do an interview with the gay press. According to Chris Azzopardi:

During her first gay press interview, and for an entire hour, the Grammy winner reflected – with her usual sincerity and thoughtfulness – on her loyal gay fan base, how she reconciles Christianity and homosexuality, her “compassion” for gay marriage…

Azzopardi was curious to know if she was invited to perform at the wedding of one of her gay fans and couldn’t do it because of a conflict in her schedule. She replied:

I was invited. I was honored to be invited. (Source)

Honored? Why would Amy, who proclaims her love for Jesus, feel that it’s an honor to be invited to sing Christian music at a gay “marriage” ceremony?

The answer is obvious. She has rejected Sola Scriptura in favor of following her feelings. As I already pointed out, homosexuality is diametrically opposed to Scripture.

Equally concerning is Grant’s 2010 interview with the world’s largest Catholic network, Catholic Online. Has she not heard of the Protestant Reformation? By doing the interview she as much as endorsed a religious system that has led billions of people down a path that ends at the Gates of Hell.

Reformer Martin Luther made it clear what Protestants must believe about the Roman Catholic Church:

What kind of a church is the pope’s church?” asked Martin Luther. “It is an uncertain, vacillating and tottering church. Indeed, it is a deceitful, lying church, doubting and unbelieving, without God’s Word. For the pope with his wrong keys teaches his church to doubt and to be uncertain.

If it is a vacillating church, then it is not the church of faith, for the latter is founded upon a rock, and the gates of hell cannot prevail against it (Matthew.16:18). If it is not the church of faith, then it is not the Christian church, but it must be an unchristian, anti-Christian, and faithless church which destroys and ruins the real, holy, Christian church.3 (H/T Ken Silva)

It doesn’t require a degree in theology to know that the Roman Catholic Church has for centuries been spreading a false gospel, a gospel that does not save and intends to keep men blinded from the truth. (2 Corinthians 4:4). That Ms. Grant—or any other professing Christian–would agree to sit down with a representative of a false religious system shows how little discernment she has. Sadly, it appears that she is not concerned that her fans understand authentic Christian doctrine that will help them mature and grow in their faith. Amy must know that,

There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way to death. (Proverbs 16:25)

Likewise:

Whoever has my commandments and keeps them, he it is who loves me. And he who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and manifest myself to him. (John 14:21)

Dan Haseltine is not a household name. But many believers are familiar with the popular Christian band Jars of Clay. In April Dan tweeted his support for gay “marriage” and claimed that Scripture has nothing to say on morality. When Christians objected to his unbiblical stance, he tweeted this stunning rebuke:

I don’t particularly care about Scriptures stance on what is “wrong” I care more about how it says we should treat people.

On biblical morality he tweeted:

Because most people read and interpret scripture wrong. I don’t think scripture “clearly” states much about morality.

The following day Metro Weekly reported Haseltine’s response to the uproar:

“Not meaning to stir things up BUT… is there a non-speculative or non ‘slippery slope’ reason why gays shouldn’t marry? I don’t hear one.” He went on to write “I’m trying to make sense of the conservative argument. But it doesn’t hold up to basic scrutiny. Feels akin to women’s suffrage. I just don’t see a negative effect to allowing gay marriage. No societal breakdown, no war on traditional marriage. ?? Anyone?” (Source)

By not taking a strong stance against gay “marriage” Amy and Dan have surrendered to three enemies: the world, the flesh and the devil. And let’s be clear. From their “progressive” vantage point, their brothers and sisters in Christ who oppose same-sex “marriage” (for biblical reasons) are homophobes, hate mongers and bigots.

But this is not only about Christian entertainers that have gone the way of progressive Christianity. It is equally about the so-called Bible-believing Christian who has chosen to ignore what God’s Word says on homosexuality; the one who puts his tail between his legs and cowers rather than to stand up for the Truth. God’s people are commanded to “contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints.” (Jude 1:3) And by the way, the discerning Christian knows perfectly well that same-sex sex is prohibited in Scripture. Moreover, a spiritual person (1 Cor. 2:15) will understand that every sin is ultimately a sin against God. “For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” (Romans 3:23)

I’ll end this with a lengthy quote from Walter Martin, apologist and founder of the Christian Research Institute. Over two decades ago Dr. Martin gave us fair warning:

I don’t think it needs blackboard diagram; or any amount of sophisticated logical presentation a fortiori. I think you can be a fifth-grader and understand that if God says “cursed” is something He takes an extremely dim view of it. I think that’s a rational approach. So the homosexual theologians who are attempting today to defend homosexuality on the basis of Biblical theology are in the same position as the Sadducees, to whom Jesus addressed this remark: “You do err. Not knowing the Scriptures or the power of God.”

That’s exactly where they are. They are trying to put Christianity and homosexuality in the same bed; and you’re not gonna do it because Jesus Christ very forcibly condemned it. And you say, “Where in the New Testament did Jesus ever mention homosexuality?” Open your Bibles and find out; because contrary to what the gay church says, He not only spoke against it—He went out of His way to make it very clear [so] nobody’d misunderstand Him.

Of course, you do have to study your Greek New Testament to come up with it. Most homosexual theologians, so-called, that I have talked to don’t even know the Greek alphabet, much less their Greek exegesis so they miss it completely—but it’s here in the passage and it should be looked at. Matthew, chapter 15, Christ is speaking, verse 19, “For out of the heart proceeds evil thoughts, murders,” notice the differentiation, “adulteries, fornications,” plural, “thefts, false witness, blasphemies.”

“These are the things which defile a man, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile.” “The word homosexual is not there; what are you arguing about?” I’m arguing about the use of the word porneus, which was found written over the wall, and the doorway, and the arches, in excavations [by] archaeologists of Roman brothels. And the word porneus did not mean “sex before marriage” alone.

It meant homosexuality, bestiality, and all forms of degraded sex. And it became well known to everybody in the culture, if any of them ever did their homework, that porneus referred to anything goes. Jesus well knew the Roman brothels. He well knew the culture of His time; and when He said adulteries and fornications—plural—He was making a direct reference to the practices of the Romans and the Greeks and the pagans of the time who prostituted themselves to all forms of evil.

He knew it; He condemned it. It’s not just the matter of the word, it’s a matter of the culture; and Jesus certainly understood the culture of His time—if He didn’t, nobody did. And therefore, when He used the word fornications, He obviously was making reference to all forms—all forms, inclusive forms—of that which was the deviation from the norm of Jewish law.

And the reason I can say that with such dogmatism is because He was a rabbi. And if a rabbi didn’t know Jewish law on the subject of homosexuality, nobody on earth knew it. …(Source

Additional Resources

Homosexuality–On Solid Rock Resources

Answering the Gay Christian Position—Joe Dallas

The Bible and Homosexual Practice: Texts and Hermeneutics–By Robert Gagnon. Dr. Gagnon is Associate Professor of New Testament at Pittsburgh Theological Seminary. “Gagnon offers the most thorough analysis to date of the biblical texts relating to homosexuality.”


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: amygrant; anticatholic; christianmusic; christians; homosexualagenda; kkk; klan

1 posted on 06/17/2014 3:06:35 PM PDT by WXRGina
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To: WXRGina

A sodomite Christian is simply a fundamental contradiction in terms. Period.


2 posted on 06/17/2014 3:15:20 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: WXRGina

I think God is really clear on the matter ...

Romans 1:18-32

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,

19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them.

20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,

21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.

22 Professing to be wise, they became fools,

23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.

24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves,

25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.

27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting;

29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers,

30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful;

32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.


3 posted on 06/17/2014 3:16:54 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: WXRGina

This was making a good point but went the rails when it claimed there was something wrong with giving an interview to a Catholic magazine.


4 posted on 06/17/2014 3:19:48 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: WXRGina
Equally concerning is Grant’s 2010 interview with the world’s largest Catholic network, Catholic Online. Has she not heard of the Protestant Reformation? By doing the interview she as much as endorsed a religious system that has led billions of people down a path that ends at the Gates of Hell.

Wow, seriously? Just giving an interview is equally concerning to endorsing homosexual "marriage"? Just talking to someone of a differing belief is "an endorsement"? Who is this nut of an author?

5 posted on 06/17/2014 3:21:02 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: WXRGina
As far as I am concerned, Carrie Underwood proved her [lack of] Christian values a long time ago with this song... which, as far as I am concerned, if a man ever insinuated so much in a song, he would be considered a psychostalker.


6 posted on 06/17/2014 3:25:17 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: WXRGina

So it is as bad to TALK TO A CATHOLIC MAGAZINE as it is to endorse HOMOSEXUALITY?

Then use Luther as the authority to bash Catholic Theology as flip flopping when they are the one org NOT to flip flop on things like birth control, homosexuluality, sex outside of marriage, ect, ect, ect?

Dudes, your bigotry is showing...


7 posted on 06/17/2014 3:29:59 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: WXRGina
“I don’t know what it’s like to be told I can’t marry somebody I love, and want to marry. I can’t imagine how that must feel. I definitely think we should all have the right to love, and love publicly, the people that we want to love.”

How is it "love" when you are patting someone on the back and telling them all is well as they march on to Hell. That is - an eternity in the lake of fire where the worm dieth not...
As a self-professed "Christian" she should know that the wages of sin is death (and that is the second death). We are all sinners and we all need a Saviour. A Christian may stumble but he/she does not happily walk in sin. We are to pray for those that are trapped in a lifestyle of sin - not encourage them by lying to them.

Underwood also noted that she attends a gay-friendly church.

Yeah, good luck with that. Like I said - sinners are welcome. We are all sinners. Being 'sin-friendly' though, is just taking the express route to damnation. This is not a church. At least not the Bride of Christ.

8 posted on 06/17/2014 3:31:04 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: WXRGina
Reformer Martin Luther made it clear what Protestants must believe

"It is a sweet and pious belief that the infusion of Mary's soul was effected without original sin; so that in the very infusion of her soul she was also purified from original sin and adorned with God's gifts, receiving a pure soul infused by God; thus from the first moment she began to live she was free from all sin" -- Martin Luther, Sermon on the day of conception of the Mother of God, 1527

Oh, wait, I guess Luther is only an infallible authority for Protestants when he says bad things about Rome. My bad, sorry.

9 posted on 06/17/2014 3:37:05 PM PDT by Campion
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To: WXRGina

Amy Grant is friends to Melissa Ethridge. I always felt Amy supports gay marriage. Now I believe everyone should be treated with respect (unless it is a liber =) but it does not mean one must support the lifestyle that conflict with God’s Law.


10 posted on 06/17/2014 3:43:02 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: Star Traveler

Yes, the Lord is abundantly clear on this matter.


11 posted on 06/17/2014 3:43:21 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: logitech

Predictable Screeching Ping


12 posted on 06/17/2014 3:47:47 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Campion

Luther isn’t an infallible authority for any Protestant, whether dealing with Mary or otherwise.


13 posted on 06/17/2014 3:48:06 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: WXRGina

Amy Grant helped destroy a marriage being the other woman. She divorced her husband too. I’m not so surprised she embraced sin considering what she did.

Ironic that a band called Jars of Clay has the biblical understanding of clay and not stronger substance.


14 posted on 06/17/2014 3:49:06 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: WXRGina

Support for gay marriage is the Mark of the Beast.

Any Christian who publicly declares their support may be putting their eternal life in jeopardy.

You can’t be a Christian and support homosexual “marriage”. It is the sanctioning of a permanent sinful condition which is an abomination to a Holy God. It is an attempt to call holy that which by nature is evil.


15 posted on 06/17/2014 3:50:58 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Rodamala

Oh, so she is the one who’s responsible for that nutcase song.

Yep, he cheated, so it’s cool to go vandalize his car...


16 posted on 06/17/2014 3:54:07 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: Campion

“What kind of a church is the pope’s church?”

The kind that’s more Biblically solid on the subject under discussion than the musicians quoted in the rest of the article. Or for that matter, at least some of Father Martin’s ecclesiastical progeny.

What do I win?


17 posted on 06/17/2014 3:54:19 PM PDT by RichInOC (...your newest purveyor of wit, laughter and the Popish creed.)
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To: Patriot Babe

Amy Grant, when receiving a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, gave an un-Christian and undignified acceptance speech. A crude joke about her breasts, in front of family and friends and fellow Christians. She has been in show business too long.


18 posted on 06/17/2014 3:58:36 PM PDT by heye2monn (MO)
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To: ifinnegan

Separation from religious apostasy is clearly commanded by God. Whether or not an interview crosses the line is a topic for discussion, but unlike most in our day, the author takes seriously the biblical doctrine of separation.


19 posted on 06/17/2014 3:59:44 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Campion

This article was good and informative until the writer got into the Catholic-bashing.


20 posted on 06/17/2014 4:00:56 PM PDT by heye2monn (MO)
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To: WXRGina

There was a time when I used to listen to Contemporary Christian music. I often found the tunes catchy, and some of the singers were talented. I eventually got burnt out on the lack of substance in the contemporary Christian ‘message’. Now if I listen to Christian music, it is written by Bach or Handel. I am not surprised that these singers have turned out to be frauds.


21 posted on 06/17/2014 4:09:59 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte (Psalm 14:1 ~ The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”)
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To: WXRGina

having been around Amy Grant and CCM since the ‘70’s, I know too well the falseness that she and others exhibit as opposed to the clear teachings of the Bible. Back in the 80’s it saddened me that her interview with a leading worldly magazine for women, she had to snicker snicker talk about her use of F-bombs and running down the beach in Southern California topless - ‘free and easy’. The sadness was a. for her misguidedness and b. for the millions of weak Christians that would see her as an ‘example’.

I always think of the verse in Revelation “and they overcame him with the Blood of the Lamb and THE WORD OF THEIR TESTIMONY”. The older I get the more I realize the responsibility I have of the second part of that verse.

Certainly Grant and the Jars Of Clay guy have lost their way.


22 posted on 06/17/2014 4:22:10 PM PDT by time4good
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To: heye2monn
This article was good and informative until the writer got into the Catholic-bashing.

She wasn't "catholic bashing." She was simply telling the truth.

23 posted on 06/17/2014 4:23:10 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Sans-Culotte

Yeah - I hear you. After the ‘80’s I got so turned off by the formulaic proliferation - just get a cute face to sing about Jesus and all is good.

I’ve paid attention again in the past 5 years - my faith restored with groups like Casting Crowns, Mercy Me.


24 posted on 06/17/2014 4:24:45 PM PDT by time4good
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To: time4good

Excellent points, Time4Good!


25 posted on 06/17/2014 4:25:09 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: WXRGina; Charles Henrickson

:: Reformer Martin Luther made it clear what Protestants must believe about the Roman Catholic Church:
What kind of a church is the pope’s church?” asked Martin Luther. “It is an uncertain, vacillating and tottering church. Indeed, it is a deceitful, lying church, doubting and unbelieving, without God’s Word. For the pope with his wrong keys teaches his church to doubt and to be uncertain.
If it is a vacillating church, then it is not the church of faith, for the latter is founded upon a rock, and the gates of hell cannot prevail against it (Matthew.16:18). If it is not the church of faith, then it is not the Christian church, but it must be an unchristian, anti-Christian, and faithless church which destroys and ruins the real, holy, Christian church.3 (H/T Ken Silva)
It doesn’t require a degree in theology to know that the Roman Catholic Church has for centuries been spreading a false gospel, a gospel that does not save and intends to keep men blinded from the truth. (2 Corinthians 4:4). ::

Why does THE MEDIA convolute Martin’s teachings??? The Roman church is populated with faithful XPians. The Lutheran Church is populated with faithful XPians. BOTH have faithless, too.

This can be so tiresome!


26 posted on 06/17/2014 4:27:24 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Patriot Babe

Well, I think Amy went off the rails as a Christian performer when she divorced her husband and married Vince Gill.


27 posted on 06/17/2014 4:28:45 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: WXRGina

Camel nose in the tent.

“As a married person myself,” she chirped, “I don’t know what it’s like to be told I can’t marry the camel I love, and want to marry. I can’t imagine how that must feel. I definitely think we should all have the right to love, and love publicly, the camels that we want to love.” Underwood also noted that she attends a animal-friendly church.


28 posted on 06/17/2014 4:32:54 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: ifinnegan

They’re still valid points.


29 posted on 06/17/2014 4:37:44 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: re_nortex

bkmk


30 posted on 06/17/2014 4:38:57 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Campion

Ya, he’s dead wrong there.

I’ll just stick to my bible, I don’t get too wrapped up from what some individuals say.


31 posted on 06/17/2014 4:40:00 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: heye2monn

I wouldn’t call it so much as Catholic bashing, as just truth.

That said, I think there are many Catholics who are Christian that don’t follow Rome’s teachings.


32 posted on 06/17/2014 4:42:32 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: time4good

If you haven’t, check out a few other bands like Leeland, The Glorious Unseen and Hillsong United.


33 posted on 06/17/2014 4:52:44 PM PDT by mothball
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To: WXRGina

There’s a lot I don’t like about the Catholic church, including the wacky socialist pope, but at least it’s strong against abortion and strong for traditional marriage.

We need all the allies we can get in the culture war.


34 posted on 06/17/2014 4:59:17 PM PDT by heye2monn (MO)
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To: mothball

Like these utterances and flatulations of membranes really mean anything in the long run.


35 posted on 06/17/2014 5:01:34 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (The zombies here elected alcee hastings. TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITS)
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To: time4good

“After the ‘80’s I got so turned off by the formulaic proliferation - just get a cute face to sing about Jesus and all is good.”

There was a thread that touched on this earlier today. Back in the day a guy once told me that the PDs for contemporary Christian radio used to judge songs on ‘JPMs.’ That’s ‘Jesus per minute’ as in how many times the word ‘Jesus’ is used in a minute. Songs with high JPMs got more airplay because they needed to let their audience know as soon as possible that it’s the place on the dial they are looking for. Supposedly the music was so bad that unless you had high JMPs everyone would just flip past. So the acts played along, and started writing songs that had maximum JPMs, and of course the songs suffered for it.

Freegards


36 posted on 06/17/2014 5:15:26 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Star Traveler

What’s He doing to stop homosexual “merging”?


37 posted on 06/17/2014 6:01:23 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: El Cid

The young have been brainwashed and it is getting worse. Look at Obama and how he promotes homosexuality. Look at schools and TV and books and movies. It isn’t easy to convince kids that they are all wrong and God is still right.


38 posted on 06/17/2014 6:26:47 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: NetAddicted

Who is the “He” you’re talking about?


39 posted on 06/17/2014 6:27:04 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

G-d.


40 posted on 06/17/2014 6:58:23 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: NetAddicted

Note this ... “here” is the problem ...

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them.

AND ... as a result of that problem ... God has JUDGED THEM ... and the “result of that judgement” is “THIS” ...

For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

THEREFORE when you see homosexuals and their vile deeds ... you can say ... “There goes someone who HAS BEEN JUDGED BY GOD and they are displaying that judgement for the whole world to see what God has done to them!

In answer to the problem of those UNRIGHTEOUS and UNGODLY people and their SUPPRESSION of the truth of God - they have been turned into the VILEST PEOPLE on this earth - HOMOSEXUALS!

“That” is what God has done.


41 posted on 06/17/2014 7:10:57 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Re: 38

You are right. The brainwashing starts early, and it is pervasive. In the schools. All over the Media (TV, movies, etc). By the politicians.

What is worse is that you even have so-called "pastors" telling people that living in sin is 'ok' and loving -- like this 'Gay Friendly Church'... We were warned that there would be pastors coming into our ranks that were simply wolves in sheep clothing - but it is still terrible to see it happen.

Keep the Faith and warn the young that Satan wants them, but there is someone stronger in Heaven that will keep them safe and on the straight road if we trust Him.

42 posted on 06/17/2014 8:44:16 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: WXRGina

Obama ,his wife and his yougest Daughter were with a Gay couple this weekend who were not married.Most Gays are not married and not interested in being married.Obama daughter did not go to church this weekend but she looks thin.


43 posted on 06/17/2014 8:50:52 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: WXRGina; GeronL

Most of these “Christian” entertainers are no different than Michael Jackson or Madonna. They are just using a different forum to fame and fortune.


44 posted on 06/17/2014 11:23:24 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: WXRGina; All

This column has been pulled from BarbWire, but is also posted at Renew America: http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/mwest/140616


45 posted on 06/18/2014 8:42:48 AM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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