[antceecee]

Sounds good except for the tweets and recorded conversation tying this to rebels backed by Russia. Not to mention the scavenging of the crash site to remove evidence including black box from aircraft. Only ones with access to site ...rebels and Russian friends.

[PieterCasparzen]

Sounds good except for the tweets and recorded conversation tying this to rebels backed by Russia. Not to mention the scavenging of the crash site to remove evidence including black box from aircraft. Only ones with access to site ...rebels and Russian friends.

"Evidence" supporting the US when it comes to "attacks" has a completely dubious track record. Youtube videos, pictures, tweets, etc., not reliable.

If I was in the anti-EU camp in Ukraine, the first thing I would have done is grabbed that black box, so the CIA or MI6 could not grab it and fake it before letting NTSB or any other investigators look at it.

The US track record in espionage over the past few decades, with all the connections to AQ, dictators in the middle east and elsewhere working for us, our own export of revolutions, etc., makes me highly suspect of my own government. Not to mention my government's view of national security threats are #1 Christians #2 gun owners, which makes me even more skeptical of ol' gubmint.

In general, at this point, I assume every "man-made disaster" is an inside job of some kind. There are a number of takedowns of planes where the truth is still not admitted. There's the bogus other "missing" Malaysian Airlines plane. It all stinks, IMHO.

I also know that Russia and all other nations are headed for globalism, so I really don't trust much of what ANY government official from any country says.

I'm certainly not interested in pursuing the old Cold War any more. It was a bogus way to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on both sides. The financiers got richer and gained more control and power is all that happened in reality.