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CNN DUMMY: Should We Take Down Thomas Jefferson Memorials Because He Owned Slaves?
dailysurge.com ^ | 23 June 2015 | Jerome Hudson

Posted on 06/23/2015 11:10:41 PM PDT by RightGeek

Edited on 06/24/2015 12:56:35 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

CNN DUMMY: Should We Take Down Thomas Jefferson Memorials Because He Owned Slaves?

CNN Host: Should We Take Down Thomas Jefferson Memorials Because He Owned Slaves?

The debate over whether or not the Confederate flag should be removed from government buildings in South Carolina is squeezing out weapons grade stupidity from just about every corner of the America media today.


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To: mass55th

Valerie Jarrett, too, is a descendent of slave owners.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWk0ScXax9c

And although I’m having trouble relocating the information, IIRC, she is also a descendent of a white, Louisiana sugar cane plantation owner.


21 posted on 06/24/2015 12:09:12 AM PDT by Semper Mark (Vlad Tepes was a piker. ><)
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To: SamuraiScot

Indians and blacks owned slaves, IIRC.


22 posted on 06/24/2015 12:09:48 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: barmag25

“Not all democrats owned slaves , but all slave owners were democrats.”

George Washington, perhaps the largest slaveowner of his time, was not a Democrat. If anything he was a Federalist but he never joined any party.

Thomas Jefferson belonged to what was called the Republican Party in his time. Today it’s called the Democratic-Republican Party. Jefferson, Madison and Monroe, slaveowners, belonged to it. It split into the Democratic Party and the National Republican Party in 1824.

The Whigs were a precursor party of the modern Republicans. There were four Whig Presidents, Harrison, Tyler, Taylor and Fillmore. William Henry Harrison had owned slaves before he was President. Tyler owned slaves. Taylor owned slaves. Fillmore didn’t.


23 posted on 06/24/2015 12:10:49 AM PDT by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Indians and blacks owned slaves, IIRC.

I've read that the first man to be enslaved indefinitely (as opposed to entering indentured servitude for a time period, which was common) was owned by a black man in Virginia. It came about as a result of a court decision in his favor. The (black) owner had sued a man who was trying to win his freedom. As I read the record, the court agreed with the owner and laid down the precedent for lifetime servitude.

24 posted on 06/24/2015 12:19:09 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is no proof Grant ever owned more than one slave, who he freed in 1859, at a time when his family was in severe financial difficulty.

Julia Grant may have owned several slaves, or they may have belonged to her father, who lent them to her.


25 posted on 06/24/2015 12:20:48 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Indians and blacks owned slaves, IIRC.

Anthony Johnson

26 posted on 06/24/2015 12:28:35 AM PDT by Semper Mark (Vlad Tepes was a piker. ><)
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To: Olog-hai

They are near the end, and they know it.

As I posted on a thread earlier tonight:

As Dick Cheney said so memorably, “It’s time for them to go” ... As with Clinton, late in the second term of a liberal Administration, when every lib in the country is frantically trying to get his or her “turn” before it’s over, it all descends into ridiculousness.


27 posted on 06/24/2015 12:33:45 AM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: RightGeek

Einstein observed, “The only thing in the Universe that is more plentiful than protons is human stupidity.”


28 posted on 06/24/2015 12:33:59 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Nevermind the “Redskins”. When they get rid of that, they will go after the “Washington” next.


29 posted on 06/24/2015 12:36:54 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: JennysCool

It is all about this question, “What can we make people do?”. Like training a dog, start with the easy stuff. Get ready, it is gonna get harder and harder and the dopes at the GOP are just slobbering all over the biscuits!


30 posted on 06/24/2015 12:39:56 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

Here comes the American Taliban...blowing up all those monuments....


31 posted on 06/24/2015 12:40:12 AM PDT by databoss
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To: RightGeek

I’m so tired of communist agitators running the country.


32 posted on 06/24/2015 12:41:11 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: RightGeek

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/06/22/us/first-lady-family-q-and-a.html?_r=0

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/17/us/dna-gives-new-insights-into-michelle-obamas-roots.html


33 posted on 06/24/2015 1:05:53 AM PDT by Semper Mark (Vlad Tepes was a piker. ><)
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To: RightGeek

Fair enough question. Where does it stop? How about renaming all of Robert Byrd’s namesakes? Removing the Washington monument? Can’t learn from history if it’s erased.


34 posted on 06/24/2015 1:12:02 AM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: RightGeek

35 posted on 06/24/2015 1:22:09 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: RightGeek

I told folks it would not stop with simply southern heritage

They want it all

Anything with a whiff of white privilege

Or founded in prejudice by whites or against any and every minority

It’s fukcing tyranny we’re witnessing unfol
Fostered in large by the least responsible most violent segment of our culture engineered by their elite masters


36 posted on 06/24/2015 1:34:09 AM PDT by wardaddy (Its no accident the most conservative region of America is being destroyed now and aided by GOPe)
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To: RightGeek
It would be appropriate for Senator Cruz, in response, to sponsor a bill to tear down the Johnson Memorial Grove on the Potomac and rename the Johnson Space Center to something less offensive.

After all,

(Source: Kessler, Ronald, Inside the White House [New York, Pocket Books, 1995], 33.)

37 posted on 06/24/2015 1:37:16 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: RightGeek

We must rename Washington DC!


38 posted on 06/24/2015 1:54:44 AM PDT by donna (Polls are mob rule . . . faked.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I was taught that Lincoln didn't free any slaves. His proclamation was that slaves in the states that joined the Confederacy were declared free. As with most wars, the Civil War wasn't about freeing anyone, it was about economics and acquiring resources.

Another interesting aspect is that southern slaveholders could come north and reclaim slaves for a finders fee. I don't know that all states allowed it, but at least some did. OH was one that did. So, should we take down the flags of all states that allowed this practice?

This is one reason why Cleveland has such a large, long-established black community. Slaves would follow the Cuyahoga River freedom trail, hiding, with the goal of reaching Canada. They'd get as far as Cleveland, but not have the means to cross Lake Erie to get to Canada.

This whole thing about removing any remnants of our history is deeply disturbing. First of all, because diverting attention to the Confederate flag took away a moment when US citizens were coming together in grief and outrage. Secondly, this is what is done when an entity wants to take over the hearts and minds of the people and destroy their freedoms....it erases all reference to their historic and cultural heritage.

39 posted on 06/24/2015 2:51:28 AM PDT by grania
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To: dr_lew
re: speaking up on this site

FWIW, off hours, when there is a serious issue that some people want to discuss on an intellectual and informed level, this is about the only place that happens. There are a lot of informed, intelligent, and thoughtful posters on such discussion threads.

40 posted on 06/24/2015 2:56:47 AM PDT by grania
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