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1 posted on 07/10/2015 6:42:06 PM PDT by lafroste
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To: lafroste

I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night and may be of some help.

I’m being nominated to the Supreme Court one day....as I understand it...


2 posted on 07/10/2015 6:45:57 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: lafroste

I’m a civil engineer and would love to see your design once you’ve got the legalities nailed down.


3 posted on 07/10/2015 6:51:06 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: lafroste; patent

We used to have a poster named “Patent” who was a devout Catholic and a patent attorney in the Twin Cities but he hasnt posted for a number of years. Maybe if you post him also.


7 posted on 07/10/2015 6:53:51 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: lafroste

I own 3 patents,freep me


8 posted on 07/10/2015 6:54:50 PM PDT by advertising guy (it is now time to be counted)
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To: lafroste

For what it’s worth.

If you truly have an original idea that is patentable and as a result profitable, well over 90% of the people you talk to will not get it.

There is point in which you will need to disclose your concept and trust folks not to steal it. They don’t know what you know.

Non-disclosures etc, are worthless.


9 posted on 07/10/2015 6:58:41 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: lafroste

1. A patent is only good as it claims.

2. The claims are only as good as the research of other patents and how well they are written.

3. Everything else in the patent is fluff

4. Design patents are almost worth the paper they are written on

5. If it is a very good idea and you are a nobody - expect it to be stolen even with a patent. Maybe you can sue and see some money in 10 years after mortgaging your house and 401k to pay for the litigation.

6. Now if you can license your patent...


10 posted on 07/10/2015 7:00:07 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: lafroste

USPTO has a good introductory site for people with no idea of what goes on:
http://www.uspto.gov/learning-and-resources/inventors-entrepreneurs-resources

Good luck, I’m hoping to snag an attorney next week myself.


12 posted on 07/10/2015 7:02:52 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: lafroste

The patent system was never design to protect the inventor.
The recent changes have made it less favorable to inventors.


14 posted on 07/10/2015 7:07:17 PM PDT by jimfr
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To: lafroste

Talk to George Forman


15 posted on 07/10/2015 7:10:47 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: lafroste
Wear these until you get what you seek.


18 posted on 07/10/2015 7:17:37 PM PDT by jy8z (When push comes disguised as nudge, I do not budge.)
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To: lafroste

If you are a professional engineer for 30 years you should know better., Spend $200 and sit down with a patent lawyer for an hour.


20 posted on 07/10/2015 7:19:45 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: lafroste

Mr. GG2 has several patents. I hate to tell you what a patent attorney costs and then there is the engineering costs and then the DVD that has to be made to make sure you are not showing too much to prospective buyers. Figure on about $250,000 and at least 2 years.


24 posted on 07/10/2015 7:25:01 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: lafroste

Sounds like the neatest invention since the ShamWow guy got beat up by a hooker in Miami


28 posted on 07/10/2015 7:38:55 PM PDT by Insigne123 (It is the soldier, not the community organizer, who gives us freedom of the press)
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To: lafroste
1st, you can do a relatively simple patent search to determine if the idea is original.

Go to USPTO.
Look up
‘patent ‘search’
Then do a ‘quick search’ (very similar to a google search)

You will get a list of patents in the ballpark and determine if you think your idea is different enough to proceed.

If you find nothing similar,
you can do a relatively simple and inexpensive ($65 for an individual,labeled a ‘micro-entity) ‘provisional patent .
research it. They are pretty simple to do and will cover your idea for one year while you make contact with potentially interested companies. And the PP allows you to say you have a patent pending, meaning you have a one year period, in which your idea is protected (at least in theory) from being stolen as you show it around, before you have to make a much more expensive decision to turn it into a full blown patent.

29 posted on 07/10/2015 7:40:37 PM PDT by bramps (Wake me up when we find a candidate to take on the scourge that is Islam.)
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To: lafroste

Good for you for seeking professional legal advice. It is usually worth the money. BUT, make sure you have a representation agreement with any attorney you speak to. You don’t want that guy walking off with your idea.


42 posted on 07/10/2015 7:51:40 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: lafroste

Depending on the nature of your invention, it may be a valid path to skip all the IP junk and start selling, make a buck and then stop when you get a cease and desist letter. This is a valid strategy that works for some things.


44 posted on 07/10/2015 7:51:44 PM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: lafroste

There is s good tutorial on uspto.gov that is about 35 minutes on how to get started. I did all the up front searches and wrote the patent myself and then took it to an attorney who rewrote it correctly. Very interesting.


47 posted on 07/10/2015 8:04:26 PM PDT by Rad_J
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To: lafroste

My dabbling with patents have shown most are not worth the paper they are filed on. I have patents on fishing lures, a process for carbon fiber manufacturing, and a bottle filling machine. The second it is filed a patent troll will grab it and change a little bit then try to rub you out. It wasn’t worth the money, for me, to file. They didn’t protect me or my IP. Even if I were to sue it would be a pyrrhic victory as their lawyers are a lot bigger than my lawyers. The best is to make sure you are the first and the best with the name. The process is so convoluted by lawyer speak you need a lawyer. Expect $15k by the time you’re done.

My little ideas were not water treatment related so maybe it would be worth the patent. A process patent would be beneficial. Research online at the patent and trademark website. Chances are someone else may have thought about it. And duct tape your head tightly as it will explode when you start reading the nonsensical descriptions.

Some advice... (I now have a machine shop and get all kinds of people wanting prototypes for their patents) Make sure it can be manufactured.

Good luck

PS. Don’t try to patent the comb over. It’s already there. US4022227


59 posted on 07/10/2015 9:45:10 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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