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Returning To The Moon Is Ten Times Cheaper Than Thought, And It Could Lead To Mars
IFL Science! ^ | July 22, 2015 | Jonathan O'Callaghan

Posted on 07/24/2015 5:25:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 07/24/2015 5:25:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Great, we can send all the libs to the moon for less than previously thought.


2 posted on 07/24/2015 5:27:07 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ok, but if we are going back to the moon, next time, let’s tie a rope to the capsule, connected to a giant spool down here on Earth. Then, once it gets to the moon we can just zipline on over.


3 posted on 07/24/2015 5:27:55 PM PDT by Boogieman
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Okay let’s just get there doing it the gayest way possible. /s


4 posted on 07/24/2015 5:31:11 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

*Yawn*

We knew that not just 25 years ago but 50 years ago


5 posted on 07/24/2015 5:32:02 PM PDT by Regulator
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I know you’re kidding, but they’re actually thinking along those lines.

This Japanese company is building a space elevator
http://www.aol.com/article/2015/07/24/this-japanese-company-is-building-a-space-elevator/21213829/


6 posted on 07/24/2015 5:32:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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—The study also recommends creating an International Lunar Authority, “modelled after CERN,” to manage the combined business and technical risks of lunar operations.“—

‘International Lunar Authority’.

Mmmm...sounds Orwellian, or Brave New World, or 1984ish to me.
Certainly not something we should be subject to.


7 posted on 07/24/2015 5:33:49 PM PDT by Paulie (America without Christianity is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gotta plant the rainbow flag there... dontcha know?


8 posted on 07/24/2015 5:35:04 PM PDT by wolfman
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9 posted on 07/24/2015 5:37:11 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They could have had a dedicated ship parked at the space station that could make runs to the moon and back, no need for re-entry. Could be refueled by unmanned ships until it was ready for a crew.


10 posted on 07/24/2015 5:42:20 PM PDT by GeronL
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Well, I know all about space elevators, but I don’t even have to read that article to know they aren’t actually building one.

At the moment, building one is physically impossible, because there are several major engineering problems that haven’t been overcome. At best, they are probably trying to find solutions to those problems so that they can maybe one day build a space elevator.


11 posted on 07/24/2015 5:42:32 PM PDT by Boogieman
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12 posted on 07/24/2015 5:44:40 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Have you ever read a short story called “The Marching Morons”?

We could sell the Moon trip in the same way.

The ships would all detonate after leaving the vicinity of earth and glowing letters of satisfaction along with photoshopped pictures could be sent to family members waiting for the next launch.


13 posted on 07/24/2015 5:45:13 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So this is a great idea.

How about we make things in America once again so we aren’t spending our nation’s fortune on Chinese imports?

(not kidding in the slightest)


14 posted on 07/24/2015 5:47:10 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: Secret Agent Man
No, THIS is the gayest way possible:


15 posted on 07/24/2015 5:58:14 PM PDT by Boogieman
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Once upon a time, we actually expected to get there. Now it's a distant dream, even at a tenth of the expected price.

16 posted on 07/24/2015 5:58:43 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Henry Bowman where are you?)
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The best bet for returning to the Moon is based on the idea of “cumulative” results. That is, every mission there improves the place, so missions are not redundant, and can last on the Moon longer and be more productive.

The cheapest and best way to do this with existing technology is to first send nuclear powered tunneling robots. Horizontal tunnel habitats in the interior walls of crater cliffs, plugged with pressure doors, solves the big problems on the Moon.

They protect from vacuum, extremes of heat and cold, cosmic and enhanced radiation, and the very abrasive Lunar dust. The robots could begin years before people set foot on the Moon, and continue to tunnel even after the people leave, creating a larger and larger habitat. And while the people visit, they would have abundant energy from the robots nuclear power.

Since the robots would be on a one way trip to the Moon, their landers could be designed to be cannibalized for pressure doors, structural supports, ceiling, walls and floor, all “plug and play” for that purpose, wired with electrical and other conduits.

And, after a substantial, permanent Moon base was built, the concept could be reused to go to Mars. A far more hospitable place if improved by robots for years before we set foot on it.


17 posted on 07/24/2015 5:59:56 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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18 posted on 07/24/2015 6:09:53 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Henry Bowman where are you?)
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To: Regulator

Smells like saying anything while trolling for funds.


19 posted on 07/24/2015 6:15:42 PM PDT by ully2
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To: Regulator

Smells like saying anything while trolling for funds.


20 posted on 07/24/2015 6:17:41 PM PDT by ully2
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