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To: Oldpuppymax
No, you won’t hear about them because they involve black on white crime

News, by definition, is what is different and blacks killing people is so common it's no longer news. Years ago there was a debate between Orin Hatch and Jesse Jackson on gun control; Jesse for it, Orin against. Jesse was blathering on about how guns kill blacks in a disproportionate rate when compared to whites, indicating some kind of racism. Orin looked at Jesse and said: "If you remove the murders committed by black males between the ages of 17 and 30, the US would have a lower murder rate that Switzerland." The camera panned to Jesse...

...crickets...

Blacks have a problem and throwing dollars at it hasn't worked after 50+ years of trying. Jesse and Al need to admit the black problem is an internal one and it starts with the breakdown of the black family. In the 1960's a little over 20% of black children were born out of wedlock. Now it's 72%. Until we see some efforts by blacks to clean up their own house, I can't see why we should continue to support such behavior.

2 posted on 09/01/2015 7:32:06 AM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: econjack

“Throwing dollars at it” has actually CAUSED and EXACERBATED the cultural tendencies that are the root of their poverty and criminality.


6 posted on 09/01/2015 7:34:55 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: econjack
"If you remove the murders committed by black males between the ages of 17 and 30, the US would have a lower murder rate that Switzerland."

That's not actually true. Switzerland's murder rate is about .7 per 100,000 and the US rate is about 5. A 2001 Bureau of Justice Statistics study of FBI Supplementary Homicide Reports showed that that African-American males between the ages of 14 and 24 accounted for 1.1% of the population and 32% of murders. The study was up at this link for about two weeks before it was removed:

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/tjvfox.htm

Anyway, making that adjustment still leaves our murder rate at over 3 times Switzerland.

On the other hand, the gun ownership rate in Switzerland is about the same as the US (29% of Swiss households have a gun vs. about 32% for the US), so the mere presence of guns is defintely not the issue.

By the way, pro-gun control folks love to point out that the US has the most guns per capita, but except for crimes in which a single person uses multiple guns (which are exceedingly rare) the number of guns per person is not a relevant statistic, but rather the number of persons with guns.

13 posted on 09/01/2015 9:28:18 AM PDT by edwinland
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