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Would GOP Establishment Prefer Democrat Win Over a Non-Establishment GOP Candidate in 2016?
barbwire.com ^ | 9/21/15 | Doug Johnson

Posted on 09/22/2015 3:50:43 AM PDT by cotton1706

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To: Salgak

Which state?


21 posted on 09/22/2015 4:11:36 AM PDT by samtheman (2014: Voters elect Repubs to congress... 2015: Repubs defund NOTHING... 2016: Trump/(Cruz or Palin))
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To: DoodleDawg
"Probably. A Democrat doesn’t pose the threat to them that a non-establishment Republican nominee does."

Yes, they would. This election will be the uniparty vs. patriotic Americans who will put the country first. The uniparty is playing with fire. If they prevent a revolution by the peaceful means of the ballot box, they increase the chances of a revolution by fixed bayonets.

22 posted on 09/22/2015 4:12:37 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: cotton1706

Just ask Ken Cuccinelli in Virginia. He came very close to winning the governor’s race without any help whatsoever from the GOPe. With a modicum of support from his national party he would have had no problem getting over the top. Instead Virginia now has Hillary’s errand-boy McAuliffe running it into the ground.

The GOPe is just a branch of the Uni-Party, along with the Democrats. Conservatives tend to interfere with the gravy train, all those sweet donations and post-service jobs in lobbying and financial firms.


23 posted on 09/22/2015 4:18:09 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: Always A Marine

Good shot! If a full on constitutional conservative is elected president, and more are processed through the upper and lower houses, government-establishment should start shrinking. Fewer jobs for the political class at all levels, and less power.

Beware the reichstag.

KYPD


24 posted on 09/22/2015 4:22:39 AM PDT by petro45acp (It's about the Constitution limiting government (madison) or unleashing government (wilson))
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To: cotton1706

The Cheap Labor Express will not tolerate us electing anyone who would shut them down.

Their employees within the GOP will work with the Democrats to defeat any non-amnesty candidate.


25 posted on 09/22/2015 4:25:02 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: cotton1706

I absolutely believe they would.


26 posted on 09/22/2015 4:26:26 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: cotton1706

If the GOPe ever stooped so low as to get a former GOPe’er to run a third party effort in the general, they would never again have a base in the Repub party. That would doom them forever.


27 posted on 09/22/2015 4:27:32 AM PDT by Bobby_Taxpayer
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If the GOPe ever stooped so low as to get a former GOPe’er to run a third party effort in the general, they would never again have a base in the Repub party. That would doom them forever.

They tried that in 1980. He got 7% of votes mostly from guys like my high school Humanities instructor with the bow tie. He wasn't thrilled with Carter, but he wasn't going to vote for Reagan anyway.
28 posted on 09/22/2015 4:29:40 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: cotton1706

A lot of Freeping GOPe RINO lovers would prefer the Democrats over genuine Conservatives.


29 posted on 09/22/2015 4:31:15 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: cotton1706

You bet. Unless your invited into the club, you don’t count in their book. No matter that they are elected by the people.


30 posted on 09/22/2015 4:31:49 AM PDT by AdaGray
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I am not “sour-graping”. My preference of a Democrat over YET ANOTHER GOPe presidential candidate is based on what is best for True Conservatism. It is the GOPe, with its corruption, its timidity, its lack of any integrity, and its hatred of Constitutional Conservatives, Evangelicals, and Tea Partiers which poses the greatest threat to Conservatism.

The GOPe has backstabbing Conservatives for years and years, yet people are surprised when some Conservatives now say, “No More”?

I take this even further. I hope GOPe Senate candidates, especially Mark Kirk, go down to defeat in 2016 like Scott Brown did in 2012 (and 2014). Why in the world do we need any more GOPe Republicans?


31 posted on 09/22/2015 4:32:06 AM PDT by Menthops (If you are reading this..... the GOPe hates you!)
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To: cotton1706

yes, they would. The have a pattern of picking losers, and are quite satisfied with that. All the elite want is to be able to attend all the right cocktail parties.


32 posted on 09/22/2015 4:35:46 AM PDT by euram
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To: cotton1706

and they can’t cut the legs out from under Trump the way they did Goldwater.


33 posted on 09/22/2015 4:36:17 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: cotton1706

Republican Congressman John B. Anderson, who ran as an independent, garnering 6.6 % of the popular vote in 1980 . . .


34 posted on 09/22/2015 4:39:14 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: cotton1706
Yes, "they" would.

the GOPe leadership that control the party have tried everything they can think of to stop their support.

The questions are: Why do we allow Establishment to run GOP? How do we remove them?

The harm they're doing - to Country and Party - is astounding.

35 posted on 09/22/2015 4:40:47 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: ZULU
They have done this in the past with Barry Goldwater and in local races all over the Country.

They did it in Ohio when Ken Blackwell was the Republican nominee for Governor in 2006.

The moderate Republicans thought that Blackwell was too conservative and supported Ted Strickland for Governor. They even formed a Republicans for Strickland committee.

Of course, when a moderate Republican like Robert Taft is the party's candidate, the GOPe's expect conservatives to line up and support him because "he's better than a Democrat" you know.
36 posted on 09/22/2015 4:44:59 AM PDT by Ticonderoga34
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To: cotton1706

That’s exactly what happened in 1964. Can anyone now doubt that Barry Goldwater would have been a better president than LBJ?


37 posted on 09/22/2015 4:51:12 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: cotton1706

I’ve been saying that for a long time. If a non-establishment guy wins he will clean out the RNC and put his own people in. So the current crew has to protect their cushy jobs. Moreover Boehner and McConnell will no longer be the senior party elected officials. Right now they can do nothing, and have the power to give away goodies. And as long as there is a Democrat president they can blackmail conservative voters at election time with the threat of a Democrat congress and president, and use withholding RNC money to punish any conservatives who challenge the status quo.

If Trump is nominated expect the GOP-e to do everything they can to undermine him. Then they will blame the loss on him being too “extreme”.


38 posted on 09/22/2015 4:52:45 AM PDT by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a fire"arm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man Standing.)
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To: cotton1706

I suggest everyone call their state GOP to voice concerns. If you just sit there YOU are the problem.


39 posted on 09/22/2015 4:53:13 AM PDT by rrrod (Just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.)
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To: Jane Long

Having read all of the post above, it’s pretty obvious, we all doubt and mistrust the GOP.

If nothing else, Trump has stirred the “hornets nest” by how he has been handling his vie for the top spot. Have we ever seen anyone like him before, including Reagan (whom I truly loved as President) that has the courage to take on not only the politicians but the media as well.

Trump may not have all the “political polish” we typically see in the so-called leaders that have begged, lied and sought our votes? He seems to be the candidate the PEOPLE, and this country NEEDS at this time in our history. We could do a lot worse. No wait, that disaster has already happened, look at what we currently have guiding the ship right now.


40 posted on 09/22/2015 4:57:47 AM PDT by DaveA37
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