That must have been Peter Pry ragging on FERC and NERC.
THey seem to have the right idea but I seem to recall there was something about buying a warehouse in upstate new york and filling it with food.
no, the EMPact guys praised FERC and NERC, it was the audience guy who hated them
Did some work at Kirtland AFB in the 90’s with the HPD II and ARES. It’s harder to fry stuff than some folks think.
Although not EMP related, we hit a car with high power microwaves and all it did was wipe out the radio presets.