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HOW CAPICOLA BECAME GABAGOOL: THE ITALIAN NEW JERSEY ACCENT, EXPLAINED
Atlas Obscura ^
| November 5, 2015
| DAN NOSOWITZ
Posted on 11/06/2015 2:41:39 PM PST by NYer
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To: Prov1322; Kid Shelleen
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posted on
11/06/2015 3:25:43 PM PST
by
Albion Wilde
(If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
To: Ancesthntr
Cappy-Cola. Also available in Orange.
To: NYer
Thanks for this - fascinating!
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posted on
11/06/2015 3:29:12 PM PST
by
free-in-nyc
(Freeping from the heart of the occupation)
To: SunkenCiv
There's a fishing village in Maryland, Tilghman Island in the Chesapeake Bay, that for the first three centuries was so isolated, surrounded by water, that they still spoke a working-class British accent from the 17th century. Lasted until the saturation of television, more or less.
Italian-Americans were somewhat isolated by ethnicity during their first century here, and some old linguistic ways have been carried down.
I had some friends visit me from Italy when I was living in an Italian neighborhood and studying Italian language for an upcoming trip to Italy. My visitors spoke no English, and several of the Italian-American neighbors came around, excited to see visitors from Italy and trying to trot out their Italian words and phrases. After they left, the visitors told me in Italian, "I hope you are not trying to learn Italian from them; their accents are cosi brutti (so terrible)."
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posted on
11/06/2015 3:34:04 PM PST
by
Albion Wilde
(If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
To: NYer
I was on Mulberry St a few hours ago. Hardly any Italians living in the neighborhood anymore. Almost all Chinese and Starbucks-type yuppies now. Gotti’s old HQ is now a shoe store.
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posted on
11/06/2015 3:38:43 PM PST
by
ETL
(Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better and safer America)
To: real saxophonist
I work with a guy from New Jersey who is of Polish descent. He speaks in so many double, triple, quadruple negatives I can barely understand what he's saying."Not fah nuttin, pal, I ain't never done nuttin, ain't dat right?
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posted on
11/06/2015 3:41:31 PM PST
by
Albion Wilde
(If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
To: Vaquero
Yeah, they have prosciutto, but I just stick with the Virginia ham, it’s only $5/pound. Also, good in omelets!
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posted on
11/06/2015 3:43:02 PM PST
by
W.
(I piss fire and acid upon the militant muslims as they pray to their baby-raping god!)
To: Trillian
Different regions, different dialects. I can understand most of them.. itâs the Sicilian dialects that can confuse me!This is the first article I have heard on the subject that explained that Sicilian has Arabic influences, due to its location. Now that I hear that, I can understand better the way Sicilian pronounces most vowels as "u" instead of "a" or "o."
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posted on
11/06/2015 3:44:57 PM PST
by
Albion Wilde
(If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
To: j.argese
At least ah uncles dint marry INSECTS !!!
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posted on
11/06/2015 3:45:41 PM PST
by
knarf
(I say things that are true .... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
To: Tired of Taxes
Another thing we grew up saying was "man-i-gawt" for manicotti.Yep. And "bazilligawt" for "basilico" (basil).
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posted on
11/06/2015 3:47:51 PM PST
by
Albion Wilde
(If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
To: Albion Wilde
Now I am starving for a Tony Luke's!!!
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posted on
11/06/2015 3:49:11 PM PST
by
Kid Shelleen
(Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
To: NYer
I enjoy WATCHING Giada speak EYEtalian
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posted on
11/06/2015 4:04:11 PM PST
by
mountn man
(The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
To: NYer
I get my Italian accent from my mom who grew up in Massachusetts.
I was at an Italian restaurant in the middle of an orange orchard in Ojai, CA and I ordered a sub with prozhut.
An older woman with an FBI (Full Blooded Italian) T-Shirt tried to correct me and said prosciutto.
Turns out she was from Chicago.
So evidently there is not gabagool in Chicago either.
What a shame.
To: mountn man
What’s Eyetalian for “BOOOOOOBS!”?
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posted on
11/06/2015 4:45:43 PM PST
by
Tax-chick
(You have 22 days to get ready for the Advent Kitteh!)
To: NYer
I always understood the difference as between south and north. The different dialect from the modern Florentine is Sicilian which, incidentally, why you’d hear it more in mob run areas.
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posted on
11/06/2015 4:53:35 PM PST
by
fruser1
To: Vaquero
I grew up on Long island in a Jewish/Italian area. To this day i use the Italian pronunciation of most foods and pro-shoot is one of them. It drives my kids crazy.
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posted on
11/06/2015 4:58:22 PM PST
by
surrey
To: Tax-chick
To: Tax-chick
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posted on
11/06/2015 5:19:25 PM PST
by
john drake
(Lucius Accius-Roman,170 BC - "oderint dum metuant" translated "Let them hate so long as they fear")
To: mountn man
I believe Bobby Flay does too;)
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posted on
11/06/2015 5:23:36 PM PST
by
leaning conservative
(snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
To: surrey
I grew up on Long island in a Jewish/Italian area. Sounds like Matzo-Pizza NY. ( Massapequa)
. I was upstate last week opening up my hunting camp to prepare for Nov 21 opening day. Stopped at a restaurant for dinner Saturday. The waitress asked if we wanted mazzerella sticks. I corrected her...."you mean moots-arella....right?"
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posted on
11/06/2015 5:24:28 PM PST
by
Vaquero
( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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