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1 posted on 12/29/2015 12:03:31 PM PST by LS
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I usually abhor vanities.

This one was different, and on a topic worthy of reading.

Thanks foe posting it.


2 posted on 12/29/2015 12:17:19 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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This is why Trump's nomination will finish off the GOPe party, either by scrambling it so thoroughly that it only survives in name by becoming something it is not (today), or by provoking the startup of a third party, probably by driving people like Trump (and Cruz?) out of the GOP.

I find commentators beginning to propound both possibilities if Trump continues his meteoric rise in the polls and turns that into election victories (or pluralities that are almost victories).

In this regard, Trump's "policies" or "agenda" (both pretty amorphous at the moment) are essentially beside the point. He's a GOP-wrecker, not because of what he's for, but because of what he's against. He's attracting wide support in a disaffected electorate, not because of who he is (though he is entertaining!), but because of who he is not. Trump is the catalyst for wrecking things in the current GOP china shop.

I don't think conservatives like Cruz will ever have a chance in the current GOP. It's been a wet blanket that has smothered true conservatives since Reagan, and Reagan had lots of people in his own party throwing wet blankets on him and everything he tried to do.

3 posted on 12/29/2015 12:18:39 PM PST by Brandybux (Oportet ministros manus lavare antequam latrinam relinquent.)
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"The current GOP is exactly like the Whigs in 1850: no mission, no purpose, no point of opposition to the Democrats. They weren't stillborn, but they committed suicide along the way."

Fallen Far they have...

4 posted on 12/29/2015 12:19:25 PM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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Bttt.


5 posted on 12/29/2015 12:20:32 PM PST by Inyo-Mono
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The Republicans did such a good job of replacing the Whigs that they have become the Whigs.

Their only principle is to have no principles.

Their only strategy is preemptive surrender.

Their only plan for victory is to tick off their base as much as possible.

When Democrats are in charge, it’s as if the country is a car going off a cliff at 100 miles per hour. At least the Republicans drive the speed limit — but you’re still going off the cliff. What we need to do is to turn the car around.


6 posted on 12/29/2015 12:21:29 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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The problem that the Republicans have is that the GOP establishment is as enamored of wielding power from Washington just like their Democrat counterparts. While they have talked about reducing Washington’s influence, they have done nothing to do so. And eventually there is a rift- because there has to be.


8 posted on 12/29/2015 12:25:16 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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“you gotta stand for something or you will fall for anything!!!!” DISASTOR!

LORD help us ... we know not what we do!! Is anything too hard for GOD? NO!! Forgve us LORD we know not what we do, open our eyes, hearts, minds to see Thy will in Jesus name we pray, thank Thee for Thy grace, goodness, loving kindness, tender mercies, and our many daily blessings. Save America from our enemies. Heal our nation. Thank Thee for Thy WORD, plan of salvation, and forgiveness of our sins, when we have FAITH, and help us turn from our sins in FAITH and truth. Thank Thee Father! amen!

12 posted on 12/29/2015 12:31:58 PM PST by midlander
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What a fantastic contribution to this forum! Thank you!!


17 posted on 12/29/2015 1:20:43 PM PST by surroundedbyblue (Proud to be an Infidel)
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To: LS

Great post. I think you could continue the analogy pretty far along if you substituted illegal immigration for slavery.


18 posted on 12/29/2015 1:35:45 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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Please... Do you really think any large number of Northerners were “abolitionists?” They were simply anti-Southern.

But they got their wishes: just visit inner-cities Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, etc.


19 posted on 12/29/2015 2:10:52 PM PST by Redbob (#BlackCoffeeMatters)
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This is where I differ with almost all on FR these days..

I think there will come a day when you will want people to vote for you (and that day is coming soon)...

If you have decided the Republican party et al is the bad guy and you cannot work with them, where do you get your votes?

Even if its the Republicans that have committed Hari Kari I think you will want them breathing long enough to vote.

I personally liked Trump better when he was a Democrat. But he says he found God and turned into a Republican and Im assuming that is the party most of you want to run with. Ross Perot’s Party is hard to find these Days.

Maybe to get elected Trump will stand like the Colossus of Rhodes with one foot in The Democrat Party and one in the (now dead) Republican party.

So FR seems wedded to the idea that all Republicans (but some) are evil incarnate.

Good luck with all that


23 posted on 12/29/2015 2:30:24 PM PST by woofie
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Um, that was a great vanity. Thank you.

Oh, what became of Lynn Marshall, is he still alive?


24 posted on 12/29/2015 2:31:09 PM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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More to the point for us today: the Whigs never stood for ANYTHING except "like the Democrats, only not quite as much."

Maybe this is why your "scholar" disappeared.

The Whigs were a Big (Federal) Government Party. They favored Federal Government involvement building railroads and supporting what passed for big business in those days. The real problem for the Whigs was that they had no positions on things that were (for better or worse) the issues of the day like expansion of slavery into the territories. So prominent members of the party took opposite sides and tore the Party apart.

For a real scholar's view try Holt's The Rise and Fall of the Whig Party.

ML/NJ

27 posted on 12/29/2015 3:20:04 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: LS

Great post. Very illuminating. Thanks for posting.


30 posted on 12/29/2015 4:19:07 PM PST by mbrfl (fightingmad)
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To bad you have to pay to read the actual article.

ff

32 posted on 02/21/2016 5:08:01 AM PST by foreverfree
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Read later


34 posted on 02/21/2016 5:29:19 AM PST by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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