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Secret Trump Voters
The American Conservative ^ | March 8, 2016 | Rod Dreher

Posted on 03/09/2016 12:50:50 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: uncitizen

“I don’t get the whole meme of “I’m embarrassed to admit I’m for Trump”

You do not have a non-tenured academic job. The problem with academic jobs is if you are terminated or not renewed because of a PC issue you will never get another job, anywhere. If you’d spend 12 to 15 years gaining credentials for a job that should frighten you. If the leftist that control faculty ever suspect you are not one of them they will find some hokey PC charge and drag you before an academic kangaroo court where if you do not submit to personal humiliation and forfeit your next increment and any chance of promotion you will be terminated.

I can understand how a non-tenured assistant or associate professor would be afraid


21 posted on 03/09/2016 2:32:12 AM PST by Fai Mao (Just a tropical gardener chatting with friends)
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To: Fai Mao

You’re right. Absolutely true. I was thinking of an average person.


22 posted on 03/09/2016 2:35:22 AM PST by uncitizen (Revenge!)
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To: rineaux

Bill Clinton wouldn’t be able to get any nookie for the next 4 years if he returns to the White House. Nookie is his latest girlfriend (or COULD be)...


23 posted on 03/09/2016 2:37:57 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, and that’s because we didn’t know what we know now.....

.....and Reagan might have had doubts....or stronger.....but didn’t have the political chutspah, rest his soul, to just say NO

We know......I say, we KNOW Trump has the chutspah to not be talked into anything just for the sake of.

Bush 1 didn’t honor Reagan......he squandered away much we had gained, or at least got the ball rolling in the wrong direction......

.....making way for his good buddy Bill AND Hill.....
......then dynasty George
.......and to our further downfall Obama


24 posted on 03/09/2016 2:56:50 AM PST by Guenevere (If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well, Reagan won twice as I recall.

Not because everyone ran to the polls to vote for Bush. Bush won once as I recall and was a lame duck 2 years in to his presidency.

25 posted on 03/09/2016 3:03:33 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Right now, the starting wage in this area is more like $9.50 an hour. The plant I worked at is gone.

Twenty three years later, and the NOMINAL starting wage has gone DOWN 18.5 percent. Of course, $9.50 an hour today is the equivalent of about $5.60 an hour in 1993. So the real starting wage has gone down more like 53 percent.

Over that time a regular-cab Ford F-150 has gone from starting at about $11,000 to starting at about $26,000. In 1993 I could have put a 90 percent down payment on a new truck by working part time at a summer job for a few months. Twenty three years later a guy would need to work the same job for a year and half or so. Except he can't because that job went away.

In the summer of 1993 I earned enough to pay for TWO full years of tuition at Penn State. Today a kid in my position might earn enough for half a semester."

If the author really wants to get depressed he should compare and contrast the 70s with the 90's.

26 posted on 03/09/2016 3:07:15 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

I was there. I was guarding Vice President Bush’s plane and cars at night and working for Haig for President in the daytime.


27 posted on 03/09/2016 3:08:09 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ 2016)
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To: Durus

Sounds like he was a young child in the 70’s if he attended college in the 90’s, so he wouldn’t really have a frame of reference. But you’re right, of course.


28 posted on 03/09/2016 3:10:40 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ 2016)
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To: uncitizen

That’s OK. We’ll take them as they are. Around where I live, people don’t even say the word “Republican” out loud. It’ll get better.


29 posted on 03/09/2016 3:15:00 AM PST by firebrand
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yep that is the reality, and why people must stop supporting Ted. Ted needs to prove his eligibility first, and then perhaps he can be the next President. The more I saw of Ted in this campaign though, the more I realized he wants into the Washington Insiders circle. That he is not really out for us, but for himself and his family. That he realized the angst that has been brewing in America and acted accordingly as a Senator. Many of us, including myself were sucked into this belief about him. Now I am not saying he hasn't done some good things because he has. But it has all been a very calculated and engineered image he created to move beyond just being a Senator.

If he were really who is portraying himself to be, how would he square his wife's involvement with Goldman Sachs & the whole Wall Street band of crooks? How would he square Heidi's involvement with the CFR and the whole New World Order scheme to erase American borders and create a North American Union that would be just as disastrous as the European Union. If Britain were smart they would listen to the mayor of London and reject David Cameron's insistence to remain in the European Union. They are in a good position to exit because they did not buy into the Euro and stayed with the Pound.

What Cruz did to Carson was a clever move to be sure, but it was a calculated move as well to prove that he had enough evangelical support to beat Trump. This was done because he knew Donald was bombastic and that a lot of people would be turned off by it. But he knew he was coming up just a little short in beating Donald. Had he not done that he may very well have lost his home state, so he really had nothing to lose and everything to win.

He had every opportunity to steal Donald's thunder about immigration, but he never seized upon it. Why was that? He either was afraid to go there, which I think is not likely. Would have gotten him into trouble with his backers, is more likely, in my opinion anyway.

Donald is a wrecking ball, and that is exactly what we need. Not to destroy the country, but to clean it up and remove the crumbling deterioration ravishing America.

That would be illegal immigration and lack of respect for our borders and sovereignty. Political correctness that has run totally amuck. Cronyism that is eviscerating the middle class. Morals that are all but non-existent with our youth who hold no value for anything. The enslavement of our children because of the ridiculously high costs of educating our children that leaves them in a big hole after getting out of college. No way to pay off those debts because the jobs are not there or they were not trained properly for the jobs that are available. Schools from top to bottom in this country need a major overhaul.

We need to stop coddling the young'uns and start preparing them for life. Start preparing them how to be leaders, inventors, and visionaries to make the world a better place to live in. All they do now is teach them how to moan and groan and demand safe places. Ridiculous!!

No wonder there is nothing for them. No wonder they seek out an old socialist to lead them to the promised land of milk & honey. No wonder they can't do anything for themselves and demand someone else do it for them. No wonder they lack pride. No wonder they lack showing respect. No wonder they are adrift in the world. They have never been made to learn, anything.

Now I am not expecting Donald to be able to right all that ails this country, because that will take some time, but he may just be able to start us down the right path.

He won't be beholding to any special interests, however, he will be beholding to us, the American citizens that put him in power, and all I can say is Lord help him if he is running a scam. He has awakened a beast, and that beast will turn on him very quickly indeed. That is why I laugh at the people that claim he will ruin this or destroy that. It's already broken people, but I think it can still be salvaged. Either he provides us with a quick death or he turns it around. So what is there to fear in reality.

Donald Trump for the 45th President of the United States.

30 posted on 03/09/2016 3:17:12 AM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: firebrand

This is definitely the time to admit to being a Republican if one has been in the closet about it ;)


31 posted on 03/09/2016 3:23:48 AM PST by uncitizen (Revenge!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Reagan ran with a Bush. I assume you still voted for him, right?"

That may be so, but we knew a helluva lot less about the Bush agenda then than we do now, after having experienced the globalist liberalism of two separate Bush administrations. So I respectfully state that your rationale does not follow.

32 posted on 03/09/2016 3:32:53 AM PST by 60Gunner (The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato)
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To: Robert DeLong
Yep that is the reality, and why people must stop supporting Ted.

Right now, supporting Ted is the only way people have to send a message to Trump that we don't want or need another imperial President that thinks he can do everything by Executive Orders with a pen and a phone.

Trump says Clarence Thomas is his favorite SC Justice, but I don't get the feeling he's ever really listened to what the man says. We don't need the EPA and their ethanol mandate or the federal government taking over more and more land from the States.

Until he gets a handle on the concept of a republic and embraces the idea that we are one he is, literally, just another RINO.

33 posted on 03/09/2016 3:38:34 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

I think you will be surprised by how good of a President he will be.


34 posted on 03/09/2016 3:42:05 AM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: tacticalogic

I don’t get the impression that Trump thinks he is going to do things by executive order. I think when he talks of deals that he’s talking about working with people (congress) to work through issues and come to fair agreement on things. I believe he really wants to improve how government works in our country and understands that it requires going back to three branches of government.


35 posted on 03/09/2016 3:47:58 AM PST by uncitizen (Revenge!)
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To: Robert DeLong
I think you will be surprised by how good of a President he will be.

I'm less concerned about what he intends to do than I am about how he intends to do it. He may well do wonderful things for the 4 or 8 years he's in office while setting precedents that future generations will curse us for.

36 posted on 03/09/2016 3:49:25 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: uncitizen
I don’t get the impression that Trump thinks he is going to do things by executive order.

In his own words:

"I won't refuse it. I'm going to do a lot of things," Trump said when asked if he would use executive orders in an interview Sunday on NBC"s "Meet the Press."

“I mean, he’s led the way, to be honest with you,” he added, referring to Obama.

The Republican primary front-runner said his executive orders, unlike the president’s, will be for the “right things.”

“But I’m going to use them much better and they’re going to serve a much better purpose than he’s done,” he said.

37 posted on 03/09/2016 3:53:49 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Reagan ran with a Bush. I assume you still voted for him, right?


By push of the elitists, not by preference.

cRuz has chosen to partner (again) with team Bush.


38 posted on 03/09/2016 3:59:59 AM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: Cats Pajamas

I live in NYC and am surrounded by life long Democrats.
I am amazed how many quietly say they hate Hillary and will vote for Trump.
Trump is the one Republican who can swing NY’s electoral votes to the republican column.


39 posted on 03/09/2016 4:00:13 AM PST by ozdragon
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To: tacticalogic

Fair enough.


40 posted on 03/09/2016 4:02:26 AM PST by uncitizen (Revenge!)
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