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To: WhiskeyX
That is pure nonsense. You have voters going to the precinct caucus who win the plurality or even the majority of votes and then have one or no delegates going to the county or legislative district convention to represent their earned vote. The GOPe favored delegates then proceed to use the numerical advantage gained at the precinct caucuses in defiance of the voters’ express votes to then vote to sideline any remaining few delegates at the county convention who could represent them at the state convention. The delegates sent to the national convention then represent a minority of the GOP voters who have manipulated the rules and procedures to deny the plurality or majority of the GOP voters the right to have their political speech, Presidential candidate, party rules, and policies represented at the deliberations in the national convention.

If that's a violation of rights, it still isn't the violation of "free speech" you claimed.

Personally, while I do object to delegates not being bound on the first ballot, I have no probably with intra-party elections/politicking to select the delegates who can vote their conscience in subsequent ballots.

The fact is that Trump has been the "first choice" of only 37% of those who have voted in a GOP primary/caucus. If we want to represent accurately the desires of those who voted as a whole, the majority of delegates also should not be "Trump first" voters. They should actually represent -- as best as possible -- the full diversity of thought represented by the total ballots cast. That necessarily means electing delegates with free will (after the first ballot) to chose who they want as the field narrows.

33 posted on 04/11/2016 7:38:28 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

“If that’s a violation of rights, it still isn’t the violation of “free speech” you claimed.”

You are using a false accusation, because I did not say “free speech” as you falsely quoted above. I said “political speech” in the context of the representatives of the voters being denied the opportunity to serve as delegates at the Republican Conventions and in their committees. It makes no difference why the voters representatives are being denied to have their positions represented in the party’s deliberations. Without fair representation these voters are being denied the privileges of their citizenship in the Republic.

“Personally, while I do object to delegates not being bound on the first ballot, I have no probably with intra-party elections/politicking to select the delegates who can vote their conscience in subsequent ballots.”

You are merely arguing about how the deck chairs are being arranged on the deck of a GOP ship that is sinking. The minority who have manipulated the rules to gain control and retain control of the party in opposition to the will of a plurality or majority of the members of the group causing the GOP to become abandoned by the disenfranchised members who constitute a greater number than the minority controlling the party offices.

“The fact is that Trump has been the “first choice” of only 37% of those who have voted in a GOP primary/caucus.”

That is a highly disingenuous comment. First, your percentage is in dispute. Second, even if your number were not in dispute, you deceptively omit the fact the less than a majroty percentage of 50 percent is the natural outcome of the GOP deliberately running 18 candidates in the primary election cycle for the specific purpose of ensuring no one candidate like Trump or Carson would be able to reach the 50 percent share of the primary vote. Before Trump even announced his candidacy in the election, the RNC was already preparing the rules to force a less than 51 percent majority to give them an opportunity to slip in a GOPe candidate of their choice at the Republican National Convention. In other words, this handful of RNC officers took it upon themselves the scheme to invalidate the decisions of millions of Republican voters to impose their own choice of GOPe candidate.


35 posted on 04/12/2016 1:21:58 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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