Posted on 04/13/2016 9:04:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
>> why don’t you address the issues of the articles <<
Frowned up, my FRiend, definitely frowned upon. Personal insults and stomping on the floor are much more fun!
He’s a bundler for Cruz. What renumeration that entails, I don’t know.
It is really down to a one man race. After April 26, only Trump will have a path to 1,237. Cruz and Kasich will have no mathematical shot at the number. Right now, Trump must win 60% of the remaining delegates while Cruz must win 90%.
Trump has won 37% of the popular vote compared to 28% for Cruz. 9% is almost landslide proportions and the percentage will grow significantly after Tuesday.
In 2008 McCain became the presumptive nominee of the party with only 33% of the vote. Romney dropped out after FL and Cruz should have as well. Cruz is just a vehicle along with Kasich for the GOPe stop Trump movement.
Like it or not both Cruz and Trump supporters have to work together or niether Trump or Cruz gets elected. Trump has only received about 1/3 of the Republican vote. Half that is only about 16 to 18% of the voters.
With Trumps negatives he is not going to get elected without the Cruz vote. The article posted cites Trumps negatives as to why he will be the worse candidate.
So if you want to keep insulting Cruz supporters and losing more support for your candidate isnt that insanity? Both Trump and Cruz supporters want the same thing for the country. That is a return to sanity.
Your time would be better spent opening up to the people who are most likely to line up with your view point than attacking them.
You are right on McCain only getting 33% of the vote. And that is the point I am trying to make. Trump has according to your numbers gotten 37% and Cruz has received 28%. That leaves 45% of the vote so far unaccounted for. That is a huge number that have voted already.
It remains to see where they go from here. Both Trump and Cruz both lost that 45%. Cruz is working hard to get them and is being called a cheater for that and working by the rules to get more where the GOPe have made it hard to get them.
The whole point of the article is to kind of tell where that 45% will end up and others besides that. Is it true they will be with Cruz, I dont know. But it is where I am thinking they will go.
The votes are not unaccounted for. We know exactly who received those votes.
It remains to see where they go from here. Both Trump and Cruz both lost that 45%. Cruz is working hard to get them and is being called a cheater for that and working by the rules to get more where the GOPe have made it hard to get them.
You can't get back votes cast for someone else. Cruz is trying to get the delegates at the convention, the vast majority of whom are pledged for the first round to vote for a specific candidate based on the primary results in their state. The only path to the nomination for Cruz and the other 15 others who ran in the primaries is a contested convention. Ryan has said essentially that all 17 candidates who started the race are eligible to be the nominee. It is why Kasich is staying in the race along with Cruz. Both have no shot at 1,237 mathematically form the primaries.
The whole point of the article is to kind of tell where that 45% will end up and others besides that. Is it true they will be with Cruz, I dont know. But it is where I am thinking they will go.
If you think they are all going to coalesce around Cruz including the Kasich and Rubio delegates, you are delusional. If there is a contested convention, the first step will be to stop Trump on the first ballot. Then the free for all will begin along with the horse trading and compromises. Cruz is not liked within the party. Many of the delegates are GOPe types who will move to other candidates than Trump and Cruz once Trump is stopped. I expect some sort of compromise candidate will be selected, which will destroy the party. Once you eliminate the guy who has won the most delegates, received the most votes, and won the most states--by far--any legitimacy for someone else is destroyed. The Trump voters (forget the delegates) will walk away from the GOP nominee. And if Cruz doesn't get it, his supporters will also walk away.
What states are they putting in Cruz’s win column that Romney lost?
After the first vote they are unaccounted for is what I meant. And there is a lot of reporting that Cruz is working on getting those delegates.
I dont think they all will back Cruz. But to say that the GOPe hates Cruz is just as valid as saying the GOPe hates Trump. So therefore who do they hate more. I believe they hate Trump more.
I dont think at this point the GOPe believe any establishment candidate could win. And who would be willing to lose guaranteed. That would be a death wish for any ones career. And that is what it is for the GOPe a career.
We will have to disagree with who will get the votes though.
Cruz get NO Independent vote, Trump rocks with I’s, this headline makes no sense. Cruz would be a disaster against Hillary.
The GOPe would rather lose to Hillary than give up control of the party. They have done it time and again.
Um no. Trump is running very negative with women. Like 70% have a negative view of him. That is not just the dems but Republicans as well.
Poll after poll shows how much he is disliked. This article shows it. You are just not open to what is really going on. It shows when you post comments that state people with a opposing view are POS, idiots, and insane and whatever else you you feel like saying.
Like it or not your negativity and your candidates turn people off.
The elite GOP would lose to Hildabeast sure. But most people below the few at the top I believe would still vote for the candidate on the GOP side be it Trump or Cruz. Lets face it most GOP and dem voters just are not informed enough to know GOPe from just GOP. And most voters are pissed at the leadership right now.
They can’t vote for Trump or Cruz if neither is the nominee.
At this point I dont believe the GOPe can stop either one from being the nominee.
It’s not over til the fat lady sings. Trump can still get to 1237 or so close that he’ll easily sway that many unaffiliated delegates on the first ballot.
So far as Mormons supporting Cruz in Utah. I think they’ve been told that that is the only alternative for a republican who is also a Mormon. I was seriously not surprised by the Cruz win in that state. Nor am I surprised that Trump was so thoroughly demonized that Clinton appears better to them than does Trump. If Trump wins the nomination outright, then be prepared for a huge shift in attacks on him from the media. They’ll clean up his image as quickly as they killed it.
However, still believe the key to power after the first ballot will be the rules committee now being selected with 2 delegates from each state and territory. This 112 member committee will determine the presidency beyond the first ballot.
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